Smaller electrode gap implies misfire;why?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between electrode gap size and the occurrence of misfires in engines. Participants explore the reasons behind misfires, including electrical and combustion factors, and the implications of different electrode gap sizes on these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a smaller electrode gap is associated with a greater chance of misfire due to a smaller activated volume, as stated in their book.
  • Another participant outlines three potential causes of misfire: loss of spark, imbalance in the air/fuel mixture, and loss of compression, detailing how each can affect ignition.
  • A participant discusses how a gap that is too wide can lead to misfire due to worn spark plugs, while a gap that is too narrow can also cause misfire due to fouling from contaminants like water or oil.
  • One participant questions whether a spark could be diverted by a higher conducting material, suggesting a potential second scenario for loss of spark.
  • Another participant proposes that the book may be referring to a cylinder misfire rather than an electrical misfire, arguing that a smaller gap could hinder the ignition of the fuel mixture, while a larger gap allows for a greater volume of mixture to be exposed to the spark.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of electrode gap size, with some supporting the idea that a smaller gap increases the likelihood of misfire while others suggest that it may enhance the correct path for coil output. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact relationship between gap size and misfire causes.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various factors that can influence misfire occurrences, including the condition of spark plugs and the presence of contaminants, but do not reach a consensus on the primary reasons for misfire related to electrode gap size.

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My book says smaller the electrode gap,greater the chances of a misfire. The reason stated is that this is because of a smaller activated volume.

I understand the meaning of misfire: it is when electricity takes a different path due to electrically conductive residue lying between electrode and ground. What I do not understand is why a misfire occurs with a smaller electrode gap.
 
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Basically, it's one of three things: loss of spark; the air/fuel mixture is too far out of balance to ignite; or loss of compression. Loss of spark includes anything that prevents coil voltage from jumping the electrode gap at the end of the spark plug. Causes include worn, fouled or damaged spark plugs, bad plug wires or even a cracked distributor cap. A weak coil or excessive rotor gas inside a distributor would affect all cylinders, not just a single cylinder.

Misfire can occur if the gap it too wide. This is usually the case when the spark plugs have ben in the engine too long..too many miles and the electrode is worn down to where the gap is too wide for the coil to overcome the gap. And is the gap is to narrow.. yes it will misfire. . Usually .015 or less...have seen them run on .010-.015 but they don't take much to fuel foul, carbon bridge, or in some cases , water or oil foul. All it takes is a tiny bit of water (condensation) between the ground and electrode and it won't generate a spark. Remember-electricity takes the path of least resistance and normally if there's water, oil, carbon, or fuel in between the gap, electricity will usually flow right through without creating enough heat to ignite a mixture. The heat comes from electricity's resistance to flowing through air. The "pop" you hear when the spark arcs is the sound of the air expanding around the arc itself, similar sound lightning causes thunder the same way. .fyi
 
Misfire due to loss of spark: This could either mean that no spark travels across the gap(as you say that electricity gets diverted across least resistance) OR this could also mean a spark being diverted because of a higher conducting material?
Is the second case possible?
 
I suspect your book is referring to a cylinder mis-fire, not an electrical mis-fire. A smaller gap has a higher chance of the mixture failing to ignite. Electrically, it increases the chance of the coil output following the correct path. A larger gap (and thus longer arc) has a higher mixture volume (the book's 'activated volume') exposed to the arc, thus increasing the chance of proper combustion.
 

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