Solubility of Sodium nitrate and nitrite

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The discussion centers on the solubility of sodium nitrate (NaNO3) and sodium nitrite (NaNO2), exploring the reliability of available data and the behavior of these compounds in a mixture during crystallization. Participants are examining theoretical aspects, experimental observations, and potential discrepancies in solubility data.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the reliability of online data regarding the solubility of NaNO3 and NaNO2, noting that their experimental observations contradict the expected solubility trends.
  • Another participant points out that solubility data typically pertains to single compounds in highly concentrated solutions, suggesting that these conditions may not adhere to simple linear models.
  • A participant proposes that if two compounds have similar solubility, the one present in higher concentration might remain in solution longer, though this idea is met with skepticism regarding its certainty.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the term "likely" is too strong, indicating that various outcomes are possible, including scenarios where the compound with higher solubility does not crystallize first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the solubility behavior of NaNO3 and NaNO2 in mixtures, with no consensus on the reliability of existing data or the implications of their experimental findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the applicability of solubility data due to the conditions of their experiments, including the effects of ionic strength and concentration on crystallization behavior.

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Hi, I wonder if anyone can share some info in regards to the reliability of the data that's available on the internet about the solubility of NaNO3 and NaNO2.
Everything I've found so far seems to point towards the nitrate being slightly more soluble than the nitrite and yet, when trying to separate a mixture of the two it looks like the nitrate is always the first to crystalize out .
Yes , I have been tested the crystals after every crystallization and most definitely the nitrate is crushing out while the concentration of the nitrite in the mother liquor is increasing after each crystallization.
I'm a bit confused. If anyone could help would much appreciate it .
 
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Solubilities listed are for solutions containing a single compound, not a mixture, plus these are very highly concentrated solutions, with very high ionic strengths, so it is quite unlikely they will follow simple "linear" models.

As a rule of thumb - if the amount of dissolved substance is comparable with the amount of solvent (as in: not orders of magnitude lower) things are almost guaranteed to go awry.
 
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Thanks for the reply.
So, could it be that if the compounds have similar solubility the one with higher concentration is likely to stay in solution ? I mean at least to a point ?
Gotta test that thought . . .
 
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So, could it be that if the compounds have similar solubility the one with higher concentration is likely to stay in solution ? I mean at least to a point ?

"Likely" is too strong a word, more like "anything can happen" (definitely including the case where the higher solubility compound doesn't crash out first).
 
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