Solution for a polynomial system of three equations

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The discussion revolves around finding solutions for a polynomial system of three equations involving the variables a, b, and c in terms of B', C', and D'. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to systems of equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to find solutions for a, b, and c in terms of B', C', and D', stating a lack of knowledge about methods to solve such systems.
  • Another participant questions the context of the inquiry, suggesting it may be related to schoolwork.
  • A different participant shares their experience using Mathematica to solve the equations, noting that they found six solution sets, including two real solutions when substituting specific values for B, C, and D.
  • Another participant suggests that the basic methods for solving systems of equations can be applied here, providing a step-by-step approach to eliminate variables and derive a quadratic equation in c.
  • One participant reiterates the initial request for solutions and recommends studying elimination theory and Gröbner bases as potential methods for tackling the problem.

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Participants present various approaches and suggestions for solving the system, but there is no consensus on a single method or solution. Multiple perspectives on how to tackle the problem remain evident.

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Some participants mention the complexity of the solutions and the potential for symmetry in the equations, but these aspects remain unresolved and depend on further exploration.

Bruno Tolentino
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I desire to know tho solution (solution for a, b and c in terms of B', C' and D') of this system of equation:

B' = - 2 a - c
C' = 2 a c + b²
D' = - b² c

I don't know none method for solve this kind of system, therefore, I came to ask here...
 
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Hi Bruno,

What is the context of this question? Is this for schoolwork?
 
Bruno,
Since time is short, I ran the problem without any prior tricks through Mathematica. If you know MMA, I naively entered the equations you provided into it's Solve[ ] function. The symbolic answer is a very, very ugly set. This kind of brute force, followed by some simplification, gives 6 solution sets for the 3 variables. When I substituted B=1, C=1, D=1 into these, there were 2 sets of real solutions. The other 4 were complex solutions. In some cases, one of the variables = 0.

If you are trying to find the answer to some coursework, then I suggest you find some trick that radically simplifies the equations. I'd start by solving one of these for one variable in terms of all others and substitute into the remaining eqns. Play around a bit. There's probably some symmetry that makes the problem radically simple. Good luck.
 
Why are you under the impression that you have to learn a different "method" for any new kind of system? The basic ideas of "systems of equations" work nicely here. Your equations are B' = - 2 a - c, C' = 2 a c + b², and D' = - b² c. "Eliminate" one unknown at a time, just as you would for systems of linear equations until you have a single equation in one unknown. From the last equation, b²= -D'/c. Substituting into the second equation, C'= -2ac+ D'c. So 2ac= D'c- C' and a= (D'c- C')/2c. Then the first equation becomes B'= (C'- D'c)/c- c so B'+ c= (C'- D'c)/c, (B'+ c)c= c²+ B'c= C'- D'c, c²+ (B'+ D')c- C'= 0. That is a quadratic equation in c. Use the quadratic formula to find two solutions to that, the "back substitute" into a= (D'c- C')2c and b²= -D'/c to find corresponding solutions for and b.
 
Bruno Tolentino said:
I desire to know tho solution (solution for a, b and c in terms of B', C' and D') of this system of equation:

B' = - 2 a - c
C' = 2 a c + b²
D' = - b² c

I don't know none method for solve this kind of system, therefore, I came to ask here...

I would advise you to study elimination theory and Gröbner bases.
 

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