MHB Solution: What is Decomposable Tensor?

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The discussion centers on the concept of decomposable tensors within the context of vector spaces and their ranks. Specifically, the tensors \(t^k_{ij}=2^{i+j+k^2}\) and \(t^{ij}=i+j\) are analyzed for their decomposability. A decomposable tensor is defined as one that can be expressed in the form \(x \otimes y\), where \(x\) is in vector space \(V\) and \(y\) is in the dual space \(V^*\). The participants clarify that \(t^k_{ij}\) is a rank three tensor while \(t^{ij}\) is a rank two tensor, emphasizing the importance of understanding tensor ranks in different contexts.

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Hi everyone, :)

Here's a question I am trying to solve at the moment. I want to know what is meant by decomposable in this context. Really appreciate any input. :)

Problem:

Let \(V\) be a vector space over a field \(F\), \(\{e_1,\,e_2,\,\cdots,\,e_n\}\) a basis in \(V\) and \(\{e^1,\,\cdots,\,e^n\}\) adjoint basis in \(V^*\). Which of the following tensors, given by their coordinates are decomposable:

a) \[t^k_{ij}=2^{i+j+k^2}\]

b) \[t^{ij}=i+j\]
 
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I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that a decomposable tensor would be what I would call a rank-one tensor, in other words one of the form $x\otimes y$ for some $x\in V$, $y\in V^*$. (One of those two given tensors has rank 1, the other one does not.)
 
Opalg said:
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that a decomposable tensor would be what I would call a rank-one tensor, in other words one of the form $x\otimes y$ for some $x\in V$, $y\in V^*$. (One of those two given tensors has rank 1, the other one does not.)

Thanks for the reply, but isn't \(t^{k}_{ij}\) a rank three tensor and \(t^{ij}\) a rank two tensor. Sorry, but I am new to tensors and I always view the rank as the number of indices. :)
 
Sudharaka said:
Thanks for the reply, but isn't \(t^{k}_{ij}\) a rank three tensor and \(t^{ij}\) a rank two tensor. Sorry, but I am new to tensors and I always view the rank as the number of indices. :)
One of the difficulties with tensor products is that they crop up in very different contexts and people use different notations and terminology. I think of a tensor $t^{ij}$ as being represented by a matrix. When I call it a rank-one tensor I am thinking of the rank of the associated matrix, which is obviously different from your usage of the word "rank" here.

The reason that I instinctively feel that your tensor $t_{ij}^k = 2^{i+j+k^2}$ is decomposable is that it "decomposes" as a product $t_{ij}^k = 2^{i}\times2^{j+k^2}$. But since I am unsure about the notation you are using, I won't attempt to say more.
 
Opalg said:
One of the difficulties with tensor products is that they crop up in very different contexts and people use different notations and terminology. I think of a tensor $t^{ij}$ as being represented by a matrix. When I call it a rank-one tensor I am thinking of the rank of the associated matrix, which is obviously different from your usage of the word "rank" here.

The reason that I instinctively feel that your tensor $t_{ij}^k = 2^{i+j+k^2}$ is decomposable is that it "decomposes" as a product $t_{ij}^k = 2^{i}\times2^{j+k^2}$. But since I am unsure about the notation you are using, I won't attempt to say more.

I understand this completely. So is it that we can think of any tensor as a matrix? I mean even if the there are three or more indices?
 
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