Solve 0.7 < \alpha < 0.8 for x in y = \cos 3x + 2

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The problem involves finding the x-coordinate, denoted as α, where the curve y = cos(3x) + 2 intersects the line y = 2x, specifically showing that 0.7 < α < 0.8.

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  • Participants discuss evaluating the functions at specific points (0.7 and 0.8) to analyze their intersection. There is an exploration of the relationship between the values of the cosine function and the linear function at these points.

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Participants have provided insights into the behavior of the functions at the specified points, noting that the values suggest the x-coordinate lies between 0.7 and 0.8. There is acknowledgment of the difficulty in finding exact solutions and a shift towards approximative techniques.

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Participants mention the challenge of recalling previous methods and the limitations of finding exact solutions for such equations.

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The curve [itex]y = \cos 3x + 2[/itex] intersects the line [itex]y = 2x[/itex] at point [itex]A[/itex], whose x co-ordinate is [itex]\alpha[/itex]. Show that [itex]0.7 < \alpha < 0.8[/itex].

So far I've got: Upon intersection [itex]2x = \cos 3x + 2 \Rightarrow \cos 3x - 2x = - 2[/itex]. This doesn't seem to help. I know we've done this type of thing ages ago, but I've since lost my notes and my minds gone blank. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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How about evaluating both functions at x=0.7 and x=0.8? See what you can do with that.
 
[itex]\cos(3 \times 0.7) +2 = 1.495...[/itex] , [itex]\cos(3 \times 0.8) +2 = 1.262...[/itex].
[itex]2 \times 0.7 = 1.4[/itex], [itex]2 \times 0.8 = 1.6[/itex].
All in radians. This doesn't seem to help??
 
Sure it does!
At x=0.7, we have the value as given by the straight line LOWER than that given by the cosine expression, whereas this is reversed at x=0.8
What does that tell you?
 
Ahhh, ofcourse! Tha x - value must lie sumwhere between them values! I wan looking for an exact solution. Thank's foryou help guys!
 
You're welcome.
Most equations cannot be solved for an exact solution in a finite number of steps.
Approximative techniques abound, though.
 

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