Solve 2-Particle Elastic Collision: Mass m & Final Velocity -v/5

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision involving two particles, where one particle is initially at rest and the other has an initial velocity and a specified final velocity. The problem seeks to determine the mass of the second particle in relation to the first particle's mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations to relate the masses and velocities. There is confusion regarding the presence of two unknowns in the problem, specifically the final velocity of the initially resting particle and the mass of the second particle.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem by substituting known values into the equations. There is an indication that one participant has made progress in solving the problem and plans to share their findings later.

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The discussion includes references to the lack of numerical values for the variables involved, which adds to the complexity of the problem. Participants are navigating the implications of these unknowns while attempting to apply the relevant physics principles.

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Homework Statement


Two particles go through an elastic collision. One particle has mass, m, and is initially at rest, while the other particle has initial velocity, v, and final velocity, -v/5. What is the mass of the second particle relating to m.

Answer: 2m/3

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The Attempt at a Solution


What I'm confused about is because you have two unknowns, the final velocity of the resting particle, and the mass of the second particle..

i tried using

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2'
and .5m1(v1)2 + .5m2(v2)2 = .5m1(v1)2' + .5m2(v2)2'

that seems waay too confusing for a question with no values..
 
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You can imagine that m and v are numerical values. Just plug in m1=m, v1=0 (initially in rest), v2=v, v2' = -v/5 into your equation and solve for m2/m.

ehild
 
ehild said:
You can imagine that m and v are numerical values. Just plug in m1=m, v1=0 (initially in rest), v2=v, v2' = -v/5 into your equation and solve for m2/m.

ehild

yes :smile: i figured it out last night, and when I have time I'll post the answer up here, it's really long haha

thanks ehild!
 
Is it long really? :smile:

m2 v=m v'-m2v/5
m2 v2=m v'2+m2v'2/25

mv'=6/5 m2 v *
mv'2=24/25 m2v2 **

Divide equation ** by eq. *

v' = 4/5 v

Substitute for v' in eq.*.

ehild
 

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