Solve Basic Word Problem: Find Coins & Combos for $3.00

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The problem involves determining the number of nickels, dimes, and quarters in a jar, given that there are 20 coins in total and the total value is $3.00. The relationship between the number of dimes and nickels is specified as there being twice as many dimes as nickels.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up the problem using a matrix but encounters confusion regarding the relationship between nickels and dimes. Some participants question the formulation of the equations and clarify the interpretation of the relationship between the coins.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the relationships between the coins and discussing the setup of the equations. There is a suggestion to move away from matrix methods towards counting combinations based on cases, indicating a shift in approach.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the phrase "twice as many dimes as nickels," which impacts the formulation of the equations. The discussion also reflects on the constraints of the problem, such as the total number of coins and their combined value.

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Homework Statement



I have nickels, dimes and quarters in a jar. There are 20 coins altogether and exactly twice as many dimes as nickels. The total value of the coins is $3.00
Find the number of coins of each type. Then find all possible combinations of 20 coins (nickels, dimes and quarters) that will make exactly $3.00

Homework Equations



everything is in cents
N + D + Q = 20
-N+ 2D = 0 ---> from 2D = N --> "twice as many dimes as nickels"
5N + 10D + 25Q = 300


The Attempt at a Solution



I put this into a matrix form
1 1 1 20
1 2 0 0
5 10 25 300

reduced it to:

1 0 0 16
0 1 0 -8
0 0 1 12

Funny thing is I have -8 dimes?
So I think I don't know how to put this statement into an equation:
"twice as many dimes as nickels"

As for the number of possible combinations of 20 coins, I really don't know how to start that in a matrix form.
 
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It's not that funny. The second line of your matrix is 1 2 0 0 which says N+2D=0. Or D=(-N/2). -8 is -16/2. As you started saying you want the equation to be N=2D. Or wait. Is that right? Doesn't that say the number of nickels is TWICE the number of dimes?
 
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It's not that funny. The second line of your matrix is 1 2 0 0 which says N+2D=0. Or D=(-N/2). -8 is -16/2. As you started saying you want the equation to be N=2D. Or wait. Is that right? Doesn't that say the number of nickels is TWICE the number of dimes?

When you say "the number of nickels is TWICE the number of dimes" is much clearer. I thought that's what is meant by "twice as many dimes as nickels", guess not. And thanks for pointing out about me forgetting the negative sign in my second line of the matrix. It works much better now.

As for the number of possible combinations of 20 coins, I just multiply Q D N together since they are independent events right? Or is there a different method that is specifically for matrices?
 
I think you are done with matrices. I think they just expect you to count all possible solutions. I would break it into cases, like:

Q=12, N=0, D=0. (1 solution).
Q=11 then the number of dimes is 0,1 or 2. The rest are nickels. (3 solutions).
Q=10 then the number of dimes is 0,1,2,3,4 or 5. (6 solutions)
Q=9 now you can't have zero dimes, because then you would need to have 15 nickels. That's too many coins.

Get the idea? For each number of quarters figure out the possibilities for the number of dimes. It sounds tedious, but I can't think of any other elementary way to count them.
 
thanks for your help
 

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