Solve Equation: (7x+1)^(1/3)+(-x^2+x+8)^(1/3)+(x^2-8x-1)^(1/3)=2

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation $$(7x+1)^{\frac{1}{3}}+(-x^2+x+8)^{\frac{1}{3}}+(x^2-8x-1)^{\frac{1}{3}}=2$$ in real numbers. Participants explore potential solutions and methods for simplifying the equation, focusing on both inspection and algebraic manipulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that $x=0, 1, 9$ are solutions, while others suggest that there are a total of four solutions.
  • One participant claims to have found $x=-1$ as an additional solution.
  • A participant rearranges the equation and introduces variables $u$, $v$, and $w$ to facilitate the solution process.
  • Through algebraic manipulation, participants derive two cases leading to potential solutions: $u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$ and $(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}-2w^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$.
  • From these cases, participants find the solutions $x=0, 1$ and $x=-1, 1, 9$ respectively, leading to the assertion that the real solutions are $x=-1, 0, 1, 9$.

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Participants generally agree on the solutions $x=0, 1, 9$ and the addition of $x=-1$ as a solution, but the discussion reflects some uncertainty regarding the total number of solutions and the methods used to arrive at them.

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The discussion includes various approaches to solving the equation, with some steps and assumptions remaining unresolved. The dependence on specific algebraic manipulations and the introduction of new variables may affect the clarity of the solutions presented.

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Solve in real numbers the following equation:

$$(7x+1)^{\frac{1}{3}}+(-x^2+x+8)^{\frac{1}{3}}+(x^2-8x-1)^{\frac{1}{3}}=2.$$
 
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I see by inspection that $x=0,1,9$ are solutions. (Smirk)
 
MarkFL said:
I see by inspection that $x=0,1,9$ are solutions. (Smirk)

Cool! But there are a total of 4 solutions to this problem...
 
anemone said:
Cool! But there are a total of 4 solutions to this problem...

Sweet! Then I didn't hog them all, and have left one for someone else to eyeball! (Happy)
 
I have "eyeballed" that $x=-1$ is a solution as well. (Smoking)

Time to be serious though...(Nod)

I would first arrange the equation as:

$$(7x+1)^{\frac{1}{3}}+\left(x^2-8x-1 \right)^{\frac{1}{3}}=2+\left(x^2-x-8 \right)^{\frac{1}{3}}$$

Let:

$$u=7x+1$$

$$v=x^2-8x-1$$

$$w=x^2-x-8$$

and we have:

(1) $$u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}}=2+w^{\frac{1}{3}}$$

Cubing both sides of the equation, we find after simplification:

$$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=2w^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(2+w^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)$$

Using (1), we may write:

$$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=2w^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{ \frac{1}{3}} \right)$$

We may arrange this as:

$$\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)\left((uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}-2w^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=0$$

Using the zero-factor property, this yields the cases:

i) $$u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$$

$$u=-v$$

Back-substituting for $u$ and $v$, we find:

$$7x+1=-x^2+8x+1$$

$$x^2-x=0$$

$$x(x-1)=0$$

$$x=0,1$$

ii) $$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}-2w^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$$

$$uv=8w$$

Back substituting for $u$, $v$, and $w$, we find:

$$(7x+1)\left(x^2-8x-1 \right)=8\left(x^2-x-8 \right)$$

After simplification, we obtain:

$$(x+1)(x-1)(x-9)=0$$

$$x=-1,1,9$$

we have already ascertained that the four solutions we found are valid, hence we may state the real solutions are:

$$x=-1,0,1,9$$
 
MarkFL said:
Time to be serious though...(Nod)

I would first arrange the equation as:

$$(7x+1)^{\frac{1}{3}}+\left(x^2-8x-1 \right)^{\frac{1}{3}}=2+\left(x^2-x-8 \right)^{\frac{1}{3}}$$

Let:

$$u=7x+1$$

$$v=x^2-8x-1$$

$$w=x^2-x-8$$

and we have:

(1) $$u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}}=2+w^{\frac{1}{3}}$$

Cubing both sides of the equation, we find after simplification:

$$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=2w^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(2+w^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)$$

Using (1), we may write:

$$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=2w^{\frac{1}{3}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{ \frac{1}{3}} \right)$$

We may arrange this as:

$$\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)\left((uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}-2w^{\frac{1}{3}} \right)=0$$

Using the zero-factor property, this yields the cases:

i) $$u^{\frac{1}{3}}+v^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$$

$$u=-v$$

Back-substituting for $u$ and $v$, we find:

$$7x+1=-x^2+8x+1$$

$$x^2-x=0$$

$$x(x-1)=0$$

$$x=0,1$$

ii) $$(uv)^{\frac{1}{3}}-2w^{\frac{1}{3}}=0$$

$$uv=8w$$

Back substituting for $u$, $v$, and $w$, we find:

$$(7x+1)\left(x^2-8x-1 \right)=8\left(x^2-x-8 \right)$$

After simplification, we obtain:

$$(x+1)(x-1)(x-9)=0$$

$$x=-1,1,9$$

we have already ascertained that the four solutions we found are valid, hence we may state the real solutions are:

$$x=-1,0,1,9$$

Well done, MarkFL!

But...

MarkFL said:
I have "eyeballed" that $x=-1$ is a solution as well. (Smoking)

...smoking is not a good habit and is not allowed in my thread, hehehe...:p(Smile)
 
It's an E cigarette...(Smirk)...so no worries. (Happy)
 

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