Solve Maximum of a+b+c+d Without Wolfram

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In summary, the conversation discusses a difficult equation involving real numbers and the maximum value of a+b+c+d. The participants suggest adding equations and solving for unknowns to find the maximum value. They also discuss a method for finding a numerical value for a+b+c+d.
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Hey!
I found one difficult equation for me...
It is:
Valid for real numbers a, b, c, d:
a + b = c + d
ad = bc
ac + bd = 1
What is the maximum of a+b+c+d?

And DON'T SAY wolfram, really no wolfram... I used it and it isn't good.
So... have you got any idea?
 
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Add ##a##c to both sides of the second equation, and you get
$$
ad + ac = ac + bc
\iff
a(c+d) = (a+b)c = (c+d)c.
$$
One possibility now would be ##c+d=0##, but then you'd also have ##a+b=0##, and so ##a+b+c+d=0##. So suppose ##c+d\neq0##, then ##a=c##, and from the first equation you also have ##b=d##.

Now you're really left with only two unknowns, which you can use in the third equation to make ##a+b+c+d=2a+2b## minimal.
 
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Hmm... Sorry, bud I don't understand last line. Ok, a+b+c+d=2a+2b, yes, but how I find numerical value of a+b+c+d in second variant?
 
  • #4
Your third equation says ##ac+bd=1##, i.e. ##a^2+b^2=1##, so if you assume ##b\geq0## (since you want ##2a+2b## to be maximal), you get ##b=\sqrt{1-a^2}##. This means you need to find a value ##a## for which ##2a+2b = 2a+2\sqrt{1-a^2}## is maximal.

Do you know how to find such an ##a##?
 
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I can provide a solution to this problem without the use of Wolfram. First, we can simplify the given equations by substituting the first equation into the other two equations. This gives us:

a + b = c + d
a + c = 1/b
b + d = 1/c

Next, we can rearrange the equations to isolate a and d:

a = c + d - b
d = 1/c - b

Substituting these values into the first equation, we get:

(c + d - b) + b = c + d
c + d = c + d

This shows that the first equation is always true, and therefore does not provide any useful information in finding the maximum value of a+b+c+d. However, we can use the second and third equations to find the maximum value of a+b+c+d.

Substituting the value of d into the second equation, we get:

a = c + 1/c - b

Now, we can use calculus to find the maximum value of this equation. Taking the derivative with respect to b and setting it equal to 0, we get:

da/db = -1 + 1/c = 0
1/c = 1

Solving for c, we get c = 1. Substituting this value into the equation for a, we get a = 1 + 1/b. We can do the same process for the third equation with respect to b, and we get b = 1. Substituting this value into the equation for a, we get a = 1 + 1/1 = 2.

Therefore, the maximum value of a+b+c+d is 2+1+1+1 = 5. This solution was found without the use of Wolfram, using mathematical principles and techniques. I hope this helps in solving your difficult equation.
 

FAQ: Solve Maximum of a+b+c+d Without Wolfram

What is the formula for solving the maximum value of a+b+c+d without using Wolfram?

The formula for finding the maximum value of a+b+c+d without using Wolfram is to first find the maximum value for a+b and then add the maximum value of c+d to it. This can be represented as max(a+b) + max(c+d).

How can I determine the maximum value of a+b+c+d without using a calculator or Wolfram?

You can determine the maximum value of a+b+c+d by using algebraic principles such as the distributive property and factoring. By manipulating the given equation, you can find the maximum value without the use of a calculator or Wolfram.

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