Solve Redox Stoichiometry Homework: AgCl + ZnI2

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The discussion revolves around a redox stoichiometry homework problem involving the reaction between silver chloride (AgCl) and zinc iodide (ZnI2). Participants are attempting to determine the correct volume of silver chloride solution needed for a complete reaction based on given concentrations and volumes.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the required volume of AgCl solution as 40.8 mL but questions the correctness of this answer, suggesting the expected answer is 81.6 mL.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the stoichiometric equation used, specifically regarding the presence of a coefficient in the half-reaction for iodide ions.
  • Some participants express confusion about the division by 2 in the calculations, suggesting that showing units might clarify the mistake.
  • A participant proposes that the molarity of iodide ions should be considered as 0.400 mol/L due to the presence of two iodide ions in ZnI2, which could affect the calculations.
  • Another participant suggests using the net ionic equation to find the answer, indicating that they arrived at the expected answer using this method.
  • One participant questions the logic behind the assumption that the iodide ions are counted as twice, arguing that the molar amount should remain consistent regardless of the stoichiometry presented.
  • A later reply provides a detailed calculation method, indicating how to derive the volume of AgCl solution needed using stoichiometric relationships.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct stoichiometric approach and calculations, with no consensus reached on the correct volume of AgCl solution needed. Multiple competing interpretations of the problem and its solution exist.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in the initial calculations, particularly regarding the treatment of iodide ions and the stoichiometric coefficients in the reactions. There is also mention of the need to clarify units in calculations.

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Homework Statement



a 0.245 mol/L silver chloride solution is mixed with 50.0 mL of 0.200 mol/L zinc iodide solution. what volume of silver chloride solution is needed for a complete reaction?
(answer is 81.6mL)

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


Ag+ is the strongest OA,
I- is the strongest RA
2Ag+2e-->2Ag(s)
2I- -->2e+I2
2Ag+2I- -->2Ag(s)+I2
0.200*(50/1000)=0.01
0.01/2 *2=0.01
0.01/0.245=

40.8mL

But the answer is 81.6mL, which part is wrong??
ty!
 
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2I- -->2e+2I2

That 2 doesn't belong.
 
Bohrok said:
2I- -->2e+2I2

That 2 doesn't belong.

yes, but the answer still wrong though...
 
0.01/2 *2=0.01
I don' see why you're dividing by 2 above.

Show your units with the numbers and it'll be easier to find your mistake.
 
Bohrok said:
0.01/2 *2=0.01
I don' see why you're dividing by 2 above.

Show your units with the numbers and it'll be easier to find your mistake.

2Ag+2e-->2Ag(s)
2I- -->2e+I2

0.01mol / 2mol I-(aq) * 2mol Ag(aq)
=0.01mol

0.01mol / 0.245mol/L
=0.0408L
=40.8mL

also, if i use 2AgCl + ZnI2 ---> 2AgI + ZnCl2
i can get 81.6mL, but this question is in my redox unit...
or is this a trick question?
thx
 
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I think the error is here: 0.200*(50/1000)=0.01
The 0.200 is the molarity of ZnI2, but the molarity of the I- ions is actually twice that much since there are 2I- in that compound. So you should use a molarity of 0.400 for the I-.

You could use the net ionic/half-reaction equation 2Ag+ + 2I- → 2Ag + I2 (or the actual equation which I believe is 2AgCl + ZnI2 → 2Ag + ZnCl2 + I2) and use conversion factors to find the answer; I got the correct answer doing it this last way.
 
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But it's doesn't make sense to me if the I- ions s twice
I- -->1e+ (1/2)I2
then 0.01mol will be the same, since
Ag+1e-->1Ag(s)
I- -->1e+ (1/2)I2
0.01mol/ 0.245mol/L,
or is the textbook answer is wrong??
 
[tex]\frac{0.200 ~mol~ ZnI_2}{1~ L~ZnI_2~solution} \rightarrow \frac{0.400~mol~I^-}{1~L~ZnI_2~solution}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{0.245~mol~AgCl}{1~L~AgCl~solution} \rightarrow \frac{0.245~mol~Ag^+}{1~L~AgCl~solution}[/tex]

Using 2Ag+ + 2I- → 2Ag + I2,
[tex]0.0500~L~ZnI_2~solution\left(\frac{0.400~mol~I^-}{1~L~ZnI_2~solution}\right)\left(\frac{2~mol~Ag^+}{2~mol~I^-}\right)\left({\frac{1000~mL~AgCl~solution}{0.245~mol~Ag^+}\right) = ~?[/tex]

This was how I worked it; perhaps you can see where you went wrong. I still can't see the problem exactly because you haven't shown the units on 0.01 mol.
 
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