Solve x^2/(x+3) < 9/(x+3): -2 < x < 1/2, x > 3

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality x^2/(x+3) < 9/(x+3). Participants explore different methods for solving the inequality, examining critical points, intervals, and the implications of singularities in the expression.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their method of cross-multiplying and simplifying the inequality, leading to the expression x^2 - 9 and the conclusion of the interval -3 < x < 3.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of not removing the singularity at x = -3, noting that it is a critical number that must be excluded from the solution.
  • Several participants identify the critical points as x = -3 and x = 3, and propose testing intervals to determine where the expression is negative.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the book's solution of -2 < x < 1/2 and x > 3, questioning how those values were derived.
  • Another participant asserts that the book is incorrect, suggesting that their own findings differ from the book's answer.
  • A later reply clarifies that there would be a hole in the graph at x = -3 rather than a vertical asymptote, indicating a removable singularity.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solution to the inequality, with multiple competing views and confusion regarding the book's answer. Disagreement exists about the interpretation of critical points and the nature of the asymptote.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider singularities and critical points, but do not resolve the mathematical steps leading to the different conclusions about the solution set.

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Find the solution set for x^2/(x+3) < 9/(x+3)

So I moved the term 9/(x+3) over to the left side and cross-multiplied the two fractions. Then, I simplified to get x^2-9 (because the x+3 cancel out across the fraction bar). I got x^2-9, which factors to (x+3)(x-3). Then, I created an interval table using these key values, ending with the answer -3 < x < 3.

However, the answer in the book states that it is -2 < x < 1/2 and x > 3. What did I do wrong? How did they get the -2 and 1/2 values?

Thanks!
 
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This is how I would solve the problem:

$$\frac{x^2}{x+3}<\frac{9}{x+3}$$

$$\frac{x^2}{x+3}-\frac{9}{x+3}<0$$

$$\frac{(x+3)(x-3)}{x+3}<0$$

We don't want to remove the singularity here, as this will remove a critical number. We have two such critical numbers:

$$x\in\{-3,3\}$$

Both if which need to be excluded from the solution because of division by zero in the case of $x=-3$ and because the inequality is strict.

So, we have 3 intervals to consider:

$$(-\infty,-3),\,(-3,3),\,(3,\infty)$$

Pick a test value from each interval, and test the sign of the expression on the left, and keep those for which the expression is negative...what do you find?
 
MarkFL said:
This is how I would solve the problem:

$$\frac{x^2}{x+3}<\frac{9}{x+3}$$

$$\frac{x^2}{x+3}-\frac{9}{x+3}<0$$

$$\frac{(x+3)(x-3)}{x+3}<0$$

We don't want to remove the singularity here, as this will remove a critical number. We have two such critical numbers:

$$x\in\{-3,3\}$$

Both if which need to be excluded from the solution because of division by zero in the case of $x=-3$ and because the inequality is strict.

So, we have 3 intervals to consider:

$$(-\infty,-3),\,(-3,3),\,(3,\infty)$$

Pick a test value from each interval, and test the sign of the expression on the left, and keep those for which the expression is negative...what do you find?

So I tried that and got that it's negative for the intervals x<-3 and -3 < x < 3. But that's still different from the answer in the book? I'm not sure where they'd even get the -2 and 1/2 from.
 
eleventhxhour said:
So I tried that and got that it's negative for the intervals x<-3 and -3 < x < 3. But that's still different from the answer in the book? I'm not sure where they'd even get the -2 and 1/2 from.
(shrugs) The book is wrong.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
(shrugs) The book is wrong.

-Dan

Alright, thanks!

So the book also asked to graph it. I know there'd be vertical asymptote at x = -3, but how would you figure out where the horizontal asymptote is (or if there even is one)?
 
eleventhxhour said:
...So the book also asked to graph it. I know there'd be vertical asymptote at x = -3, but how would you figure out where the horizontal asymptote is (or if there even is one)?

You won't have a vertical asymptote at $x=-3$, you will have a hole in the graph instead, because the singularity is removable.

It will be identical to the graph of $y=x-3$, except with the hole at $(-3,-6)$.
 

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