MHB Solve x,y,z: Real Solutions $(x,y,z)$

  • Thread starter Thread starter anemone
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on finding real solutions for the equations xyz=8, x^2y+y^2z+z^2x=73, and x(y-z)^2+y(z-x)^2+z(x-y)^2=98. Participants share their approaches to solving the system, with one user acknowledging another's more efficient method. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem, with one participant deeming their own solution too tedious to share. Overall, the focus remains on collaborative problem-solving and sharing insights on the mathematical challenge. The thread emphasizes the importance of efficiency in finding solutions to complex equations.
anemone
Gold Member
MHB
POTW Director
Messages
3,851
Reaction score
115
Find all the real solutions $(x, y, z)$ of the system:

$xyz=8$

$x^2y+y^2z+z^2x=73$

$x(y-z)^2+y(z-x)^2+z(x-y)^2=98$
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
My solution
Expanding the third equation and using the first to eliminate $xyz$ and then using the second equation gives

$(x-y)(y-z)(z-x) = 0$

Clearly we cannot have $x = y= z$ as this violates the third equation. We haave three choices here. Let us pick $z = x$, the other follow

Thus

$x^2y = 8$ and $x^2y+xy^2+x^3=73$ or $xy^2 + x^3 = 65$ Now $y = \dfrac{8}{x^2}$ giving

$x^3 - 65 + \dfrac{64}{x^3}=0$ or $\dfrac{\left(x^3-1\right)\left(x^3-64\right)}{x^3} = 0$

Thus, $x = 1$ or $x = 4$ leading to $(1,8,1)$ and $(4,1/2,4)$.

The other solutions are obtained by interchanging these vlues.
 
Jester said:
My solution
Expanding the third equation and using the first to eliminate $xyz$ and then using the second equation gives

$(x-y)(y-z)(z-x) = 0$

Clearly we cannot have $x = y= z$ as this violates the third equation. We haave three choices here. Let us pick $z = x$, the other follow

Thus

$x^2y = 8$ and $x^2y+xy^2+x^3=73$ or $xy^2 + x^3 = 65$ Now $y = \dfrac{8}{x^2}$ giving

$x^3 - 65 + \dfrac{64}{x^3}=0$ or $\dfrac{\left(x^3-1\right)\left(x^3-64\right)}{x^3} = 0$

Thus, $x = 1$ or $x = 4$ leading to $(1,8,1)$ and $(4,1/2,4)$.

The other solutions are obtained by interchanging these vlues.

Hi Jester, thanks for participating and you got it right!

To be completely honest with you, my solution is tedious compared to yours and hence I don't think it's worth mentioning here... :o
 
Thread 'Erroneously  finding discrepancy in transpose rule'
Obviously, there is something elementary I am missing here. To form the transpose of a matrix, one exchanges rows and columns, so the transpose of a scalar, considered as (or isomorphic to) a one-entry matrix, should stay the same, including if the scalar is a complex number. On the other hand, in the isomorphism between the complex plane and the real plane, a complex number a+bi corresponds to a matrix in the real plane; taking the transpose we get which then corresponds to a-bi...

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K