Solving a Logic Proof: Existential Hypothesis Rule

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The discussion revolves around a logic proof involving the Existential Hypothesis rule, specifically addressing the complexities that arise when a variable does not occur free in certain formulas. Participants explore different proofs and the implications of variable binding and freedom within logical expressions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the proof, noting that the application of the Existential Hypothesis rule requires careful consideration of where the variable v occurs free.
  • Another participant argues that both proofs presented are valid, explaining that propositional reasoning allows for certain derivations and clarifying the restrictions on the Existential Hypothesis rule regarding free variables.
  • A participant questions the assertion that v occurs freely in the formula $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$, suggesting that it may not be free in that context.
  • Another participant elaborates on the conditions under which v can be considered free, indicating that if v is bound in $\psi$, it may not be free in the broader context of the proof.
  • A participant reflects on the complexity of the Existential Hypothesis rule compared to others and shares a humorous mix-up between "elimination" and "eradication" in terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the status of variable v in the discussed formulas, with some asserting its freedom while others challenge that assertion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these variable occurrences on the proofs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific conditions under which the variable v is free or bound in various logical expressions, indicating a need for clarity on definitions and assumptions related to the Existential Hypothesis rule.

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This question is really getting on my nerves. It's 6i) from here:

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Right off the bat, it looks like they've thrown me a curveball. The fact that v does not occur free in \psi means that the Existential Hypothesis rule is going to need some care when applied.

I've come up with two possible proofs:

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..each in a different colour.

To me, the top proof looks more correct than the bottom. It's just the Existential Hypothesis rule that's throwing me.

For the first proof, I think line 10 is wrong. I need the existential hypothesis rule to depend on all the assumptions where v is free. This happens in lines 1,2 and MAYBE 3. If v is a free variable in line 3, then I'm sorted and everything is right. If it isn't, then I have a problem on my hands.

There's a similar problem for the second proof too.

Useful things:

The far left number show the assumptions a line depends on. The bracketed number is the line number and the far right column is the rules column.

As s = Assumption
UE = Universal Eradicator
Taut = Tautology
CP = Conditional Proposition
EH= Existential Hypothesis

Thanks in advance
 

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I think both proofs are fine. In the first proof, you just do some propositional reasoning, namely, deriving $\neg\psi$ from $\phi$ and $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$. In the second proof, this subderivation is contracted into one step because you can do arbitrary propositional reasoning in one step.

The restriction on EH, which derives some $\chi$ from $\exists v\,\theta$ and a subderivation of $\chi$ from $\theta$, is that $v$ can occur freely only in $\theta$: it cannot occur freely in $\chi$ nor in other open assumptions of $\chi$ except $\theta$. In your case, $\neg\psi$ has open assumptions $\forall x\,\phi$ and $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$. The variable $v$ occurs freely in $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$ but not in $\forall x\,\phi$ or $\neg\psi$. Therefore, the application of EH is justified.

Note that in natural deduction, inference rules come in pairs for every connective. For every connective *, there is *-introduction, whose conclusion has * as the top-level connective, and *-elimination, where one of the premises has * as the top-level connective. So the standard names for UE and EH are universal elimination and existential elimination, respectively. Universal Eradication sounds pretty radical! :)
 
Why is it that v occurs freely in ?

We know that v is bound in \(\psi\), so how do we know it's free here? \(\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi\)
 
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fumbles said:
Why is it that v occurs freely in $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$?
Strictly speaking, v may not be free in that formula. When I said,

Evgeny.Makarov said:
In your case, $\neg\psi$ has open assumptions $\forall x\,\phi$ and $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$. The variable $v$ occurs freely in $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$ but not in $\forall x\,\phi$ or $\neg\psi$.

I was describing a typical case. If v occur free neither in $\phi$ nor in $\psi$, then this derivation reduces to propositional reasoning. But if v occurs free in $\phi$, then it also does in $\neg\phi\leftrightarrow\psi$. The point is that EH allows v to occur free in that formula, but not in $\neg\psi$ or other open assumptions of $\neg\psi$.
 
I think I get it. The Existential Hypothesis rule is quite hard compared to the others.

Universal Eradication sounds pretty radical!

When I was reading the page, I accidentally read "elimination" as "eradication". Since I was in learning mode, I remembered it as eradication. When I was writing the post I was thinking "it's elimination, not eradication" but then completely forgot at the key moment.

I've finally finished the sheet, which is why I'm a bit late posting this. On to Quantum Phenomena!

Thanks for your help emakarov!
 

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