Solving an Equation with the SSFM Method - John's Urgent Question

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The discussion revolves around the application of the split-step Fourier method (SSFM) to solve a specific equation involving derivatives with respect to time and space. Participants explore the implications of labeling variables differently and whether such changes affect the results of the method.

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Main Points Raised

  • John presents an equation involving time and space derivatives and expresses concern about the conventional use of the SSFM method, which typically focuses on spatial evolution.
  • One participant suggests that by swapping the labels of time and space in the equation, it could be adapted for the SSFM method, implying that the method should still work.
  • John questions whether this label change could influence the results of the SSFM method, seeking clarity on the potential impact of such a cosmetic change.
  • Another participant argues that the labels are merely a convenience and that the interpretation of the output should be adjusted accordingly, suggesting that the change should not affect the results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether changing the labels of time and space in the equation will affect the results of the SSFM method. There is no consensus on this point, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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The discussion highlights the importance of variable labeling in mathematical modeling and its potential implications for the application of numerical methods. However, the specific effects of these changes on the results remain unclear.

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Individuals interested in numerical methods for solving partial differential equations, particularly those using the split-step Fourier method, may find this discussion relevant.

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hello all
Im trying to solve the equation:

i*dV/dt = d^2V/dz^2 + V*sqrt(1-V^2)

I want to try by the split step Fourier method.

My problem is that most of the code/solvers I saw that implement the SSFM method are when the evolution is in space not in time, meaning the first derivative is d/dz and the second is (d/dt)^2

any idea how it fact or maybe it doesn't matter ?

furthermore, you think it is possible to solve itusing the MATLAB solver for PDE ?
thanks in advance
John.
 
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In your equation, replace z with t and t with z:

i*dV/dz = d^2V/dt^2 + V*sqrt(1-V^2)

Is this the form you require to use the split-step method? If so, all I've done is a cosmetic change; time is now labeled by z and space is now labeled by t. So, it looks like the method should work with your equation based on what you've said.
 
Mute, thank you for the response.

Ofcourse, I understand this cosmetic changed, and indeed, by this change the form is regular.
But, I wonder if it's is allow, I mean if this changed might influence on the result of the SSFM method i will use in this equation ?
or the result should be okay ?

In all the material I've looked I've noticed that always the evolution (i.e: the first derivative) if on the space (Z domain), so infact my question whether this cosmetic change might harm the result or all should be the same ?
Thanks

p.s: Furthermore, I would like to know if anyone know an organized source code for the SSFM ?
 
It shouldn't make any difference. The label t for time or z for space is just a convenience to us; the computer doesn't know that 'z' is space or 't' is time. You're the one who decides how to interpret the labels, so you can freely interpret z as time. So, if you make that cosmetic change and run the program, all you have to do is interpret the output properly, remembering that after the cosmetic change time is now z and space is now t.
 

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