Solving Diff. Eq: Lambda f(y), Lambda g(y) - Get Hypergeometric?

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The discussion centers on solving a system of differential equations involving functions f(y) and g(y) defined by the equations λf(y) = imy(∂f(y)/∂y) + (∂g(y)/∂y)/y - (k/y)g and λg(y) = imy(∂g(y)/∂y) - (∂f(y)/∂y)/y - (k/y)f. The user successfully derived a second-order differential equation, (1 - m²y²)f_{yy} - 2my(iλ + m)f_{y} + (λ² - imλ - (k(k + 1)/y²))f = 0, which can be solved using hypergeometric functions. They seek further properties and specific forms of hypergeometric functions from Abramowitz's book.

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\lambda f(y)= i b y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i b y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{partial f(y)}{y} +\frac{k}{y}f

I tried to get a hypergeometric eq. from these two but couldn't.
Any hints to solve?
Helps would be appreciated!
 
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I somehow got this second oder diff.eq.

<br /> (1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0<br /> [\tex]<br /> <br /> where <br /> <br /> f_{yy}[\tex] is \frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2}[\tex]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; Any ideas to solve this one?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; p.s. Latex is not working here or am I typing wrong?
 
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VatanparvaR said:
\lambda f(y)= i b y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g
\lambda g(y)= i b y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} +\frac{k}{y}f

<br /> (1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0<br />

where

f_{yy} \ \mbox{is} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2}

You're using the wrong slash. The closing tag should use this "/" instead.
 
wups, thanks very much.

and another thing, I wrote wrong the above 2 eq.s, I put + instead of minus here

\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f

so it should be:

\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g

\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f



and then we get the above second oder diff.eq.:
(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0
 
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so any ideas?
 
where
m, \lambda, k are constants.

I am trying to put these two:
<br /> f_1=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}p_ny^{2n}, \ \ \ \ \ \ f_2=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_ny^{2n+1}<br />
and check if it is odd or even. At the end I am getting a recurrent eq.


any other ideas?
 
hmm, it gives zero solution.
coefficients are zero in this case :(
 
Ok, I got the solution.


Now I need one thing. From Abramowitz's book I got this one


<br /> F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{3}{2}, z^2)=\frac{1}{2}z^{-1}(1-2a)^{-1}[(1+z)^{1-2a}-(1-z)^{1-2a}]<br />

Now I need to find

<br /> F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{5}{2}, z^2)<br />


<br /> F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{7}{2}, z^2)<br />


and, it would be great if I find

<br /> F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, n+ \frac{1}{2}, z^2)<br />


are there any books, handbooks, or websites that I could find this guy?
 
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VatanparvaR said:
wups, thanks very much.

\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}g

\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{y} -\frac{k}{y}f

You're missing two partial symbols. Are they supposed to be:

\lambda f(y)= i m y \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} -\frac{k}{y}g

\lambda g(y)= i m y \frac{\partial g(y)}{\partial y} - \frac{\partial f(y)}{\partial y} -\frac{k}{y}f

?

Also, if f and g only depend on y, then why the partials?
 
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Yeah you are right, there should be two partial symbols.

No problem with partial. As I stated above, I got the solution for this diff. eq.

(1-m^2y^2)f_{yy}-2my(i\lambda+m)f_{y}+(\lambda^2-im\lambda-\frac{k(k+1)}{y^2})f=0

from here
http://eqworld.ipmnet.ru/en/solutions/ode/ode0226.pdf

The solution, as you see, is a Hypergeometric function.

Now I need some properties of the hypergeometric function. I posted it above:

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From Abramowitz's book I got this one


F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{3}{2}, z^2)=\frac{1}{2}z^{-1}(1-2a)^{-1}[(1+z)^{1-2a}-(1-z)^{1-2a}]



Now I need to find

F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{5}{2}, z^2)

and

F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, \frac{7}{2}, z^2)


and, it would be great if I find

F(a, a+\frac{1}{2}, n+ \frac{1}{2}, z^2)

are there any books, handbooks, or websites that I could find this guy?


Plz, help!
 
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I guess, I need to take a derivative:

<br /> \frac{d}{dz}F(a, b, c, z^2)=\frac{ab}{2z\ c} F(a+1, b+1, c+1, z^2)<br />
 

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