Solving for $a\times b \times c$: Equations (1), (2), and (3)

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The discussion revolves around solving for the product \(a \times b \times c\) given three equations involving positive variables \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\). The equations are presented as a system of equations, and participants are exploring potential solutions.

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  • Participants repeatedly present the same set of equations: \(ab + ac = 518\), \(bc + ab = 468\), and \(ac + bc = 650\).
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$a>0,b>0,c>0$ and :
$ ab+ac=518-----(1)$
$ bc+ab=468-----(2)$
$ ac+bc=650-----(3)$
find :
$a\times b\times c=?$
 
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Albert said:
$a>0,b>0,c>0$ and :
$ ab+ac=518-----(1)$
$ bc+ab=468-----(2)$
$ ac+bc=650-----(3)$
find :
$a\times b\times c=?$

My solution:

Note that $650=13(50)$ so we get $ac+bc=13(ac-bc)$ which simplifies to $c(14b-12a)=0$, since $c>0$, we get $\dfrac{a}{b}=\dfrac{14}{12}$.

Also note that $650-148=182$ and $\dfrac{182}{468}=\dfrac{7}{18}$. From this we get $\dfrac{ac-ab}{bc+ab}=\dfrac{7}{18}$, i.e. $\dfrac{a(c-b)}{b(c+a)}=\dfrac{7}{18}$ or $\dfrac{14}{12}\left(\dfrac{c-b}{c+\dfrac{14b}{12}}\right)=\dfrac{7}{18}$, which gives $\dfrac{b}{c}=\dfrac{12}{25}$.

So $a,\,b$ and $c$ are in the ratio $14:12:25$ and a check shows that $a=14$, $b=12$ and $c=25$ satisfy the given system and so $abc=4200$.
 
anemone said:
My solution:

Note that $650=13(50)$ so we get $ac+bc=13(ac-bc)$ which simplifies to $c(14b-12a)=0$, since $c>0$, we get $\dfrac{a}{b}=\dfrac{14}{12}$.

Also note that $650-148=182$ and $\dfrac{182}{468}=\dfrac{7}{18}$. From this we get $\dfrac{ac-ab}{bc+ab}=\dfrac{7}{18}$, i.e. $\dfrac{a(c-b)}{b(c+a)}=\dfrac{7}{18}$ or $\dfrac{14}{12}\left(\dfrac{c-b}{c+\dfrac{14b}{12}}\right)=\dfrac{7}{18}$, which gives $\dfrac{b}{c}=\dfrac{12}{25}$.

So $a,\,b$ and $c$ are in the ratio $14:12:25$ and a check shows that $a=14$, $b=12$ and $c=25$ satisfy the given system and so $abc=4200$.
very good!
 
Albert said:
$a>0,b>0,c>0$ and :
$ ab+ac=518-----(1)$
$ bc+ab=468-----(2)$
$ ac+bc=650-----(3)$
find :
$a\times b\times c=?$

$$(3)-(2)\Rightarrow ac-ab=182\,(4)$$

$$(4)+(1)\Rightarrow2ac=700\Rightarrow ac=350$$

$$\Rightarrow bc=300$$

$$\Rightarrow ab=168$$

$$a^2b^2c^2=350\cdot300\cdot168=2\cdot5^2\cdot7\cdot2^2\cdot3\cdot5^2\cdot2^3\cdot3\cdot7$$

$$abc=2^3\cdot3\cdot5^2\cdot7=4200$$
 
greg1313 said:
$$(3)-(2)\Rightarrow ac-ab=182\,(4)$$

$$(4)+(1)\Rightarrow2ac=700\Rightarrow ac=350$$

$$\Rightarrow bc=300$$

$$\Rightarrow ab=168$$

$$a^2b^2c^2=350\cdot300\cdot168=2\cdot5^2\cdot7\cdot2^2\cdot3\cdot5^2\cdot2^3\cdot3\cdot7$$

$$abc=2^3\cdot3\cdot5^2\cdot7=4200$$
nice solution!
 
add all three to get
$2(ab+bc+ca) = 1636$
or $ab+bc+ca = 818$
subtracting the 3 given equations we get
$bc= 300,ca=350,ab= 168$
multiply above 3 to get
$(abc)^2= 300 * 350 * 168 = 50 * 6 * 50 * 7 * 42 * 4 = 50^2 * 42^2 * 2^2$
or $abc= 50 * 42 *2 = 4200$
 
kaliprasad said:
add all three to get
$2(ab+bc+ca) = 1636$
or $ab+bc+ca = 818$
subtracting the 3 given equations we get
$bc= 300,ca=350,ab= 168$
multiply above 3 to get
$(abc)^2= 300 * 350 * 168 = 50 * 6 * 50 * 7 * 42 * 4 = 50^2 * 42^2 * 2^2$
or $abc= 50 * 42 *2 = 4200$
nice job!
 

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