MHB Solving Higher Degree Polynomial For Real Solution(s).

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The discussion centers around finding real solutions to the polynomial equation $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}+99x^{10}=10x^9(x^2-1)$$. Participants share hints and approaches, noting that there are two identifiable real solutions, while initially suggesting there may be two additional solutions that cannot be explicitly determined. One contributor expresses regret for mistakenly believing there were more solutions, ultimately confirming there are no additional real solutions. The conversation also touches on the utility of graphing to visualize the roots, although some participants find it less effective for this specific problem. Overall, the focus remains on solving the polynomial and understanding the nature of its real solutions.
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Find real solution(s) to the equation $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}+99x^{10}=10x^9(x^2-1)$$
 
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anemone said:
Find real solution(s) to the equation $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}+99x^{10}=10x^9(x^2-1)$$
Hint 1:
Divide both sides by $x^{10}$.
Hint 2:
Let $y = x-\frac1x$.
Hint 3:
What happens when $y=10$?
That will give you two real solutions. There are two others, but I do not think that they can be explicitly determined.
 
Hi Opalg,

I thank you for taking the time to share your helpful hints in this challenge problem.

My approach is different from yours and I wish to share it here too.

Hint 1:
We first rewrite the equation as $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}-10x^9(x^2-9x-1)+9x^{10}=0$$

Hint 2:
Assume that $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}+9x^{10}=10x^9(x^2-9x-1)$$ is true.

Hint 3:
We need to show that $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}=x^{10}$$ and $$x^9(x^2-9x-1)=x^{10}$$ are true by obtaining two equivalent equation, i.e. $$x^2-10x-1=0$$ in order to prove our assumption is true.

Hint 4:
The original problem is solved if we solve for x for $$x^2-10x-1=0$$

Opalg said:
That will give you two real solutions. There are two others, but I do not think that they can be explicitly determined.

I failed to realize that there are two other real solutions to this problem. Would you mind to teach me how to tell how many real solutions there are for this particular problem?

Thanks in advance.
 
anemone said:
I failed to realize that there are two other real solutions to this problem. Would you mind to teach me how to tell how many real solutions there are for this particular problem?
That was my silly mistake. There are no other real solutions. Sorry about that.
 
Opalg said:
That was my silly mistake. There are no other real solutions. Sorry about that.

I see...hey, don't worry about that! :)

You are and always will be one of my favorite mathematicians at this site!:o:p:)
 
anemone said:
Find real solution(s) to the equation $$(x^2-9x-1)^{10}+99x^{10}=10x^9(x^2-1)$$
Graph it! Hey, I'm a Physicist. (Beer) (Physics is always better with beer.)

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Graph it! Hey, I'm a Physicist. (Beer) (Physics is always better with beer.)

-Dan

Indeed. I am now confident the real roots are between $-\infty$ and $+\infty$, more or less (Smoking)
 
topsquark said:
Graph it! Hey, I'm a Physicist. (Beer) (Physics is always better with beer.)

-Dan

Unfortunately in this case graphing in not a comfortable way to arrive to the solution (Wasntme)...

http://www.123homepage.it/u/i69151835._szw380h285_.jpg.jfif

All is allways better with beer! (Beer)...Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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