Solving the Electrochemistry Lab Problem: Determining Na2S2O3 Concentration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the determination of the concentration of a sodium thiosulfate solution used to titrate a potassium iodate solution. Participants explore the stoichiometric relationships and calculations necessary for solving the problem, including the correct application of dilution equations and reaction stoichiometry.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving the titration of potassium iodate with sodium thiosulfate and expresses confusion over the calculated concentration of sodium thiosulfate being greater than the initial concentration of potassium iodate.
  • Another participant questions the use of the equation C1V1=C2V2 and asks for clarification on the initial volume assumed in the calculation.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of writing the correct reaction equation and using stoichiometry to solve the problem, suggesting that the initial approach may not be valid.
  • There is a discussion about the amount of iodate used for titration and whether the concentration of potassium iodate can be used to find the moles in the given volume.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to calculate the moles of potassium iodate and seeks confirmation on the validity of their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem. There are multiple competing views regarding the application of dilution equations and the stoichiometric calculations required.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for a correct reaction equation and proper stoichiometric calculations, indicating that assumptions about volumes and concentrations may lead to confusion. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the application of certain equations in this context.

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Hello all this is my problem:

Homework Statement


I have to determine the concentration of a sodium thiosulfate solution used to titrate a potassium iodate solution. The only variable that is known is the concentration of the potassium iodate solution, 0.01 mol/L. There is 20 mL of 0.01 M potassium iodate mixed with 25 mL of water, 2 mL of 3M H2SO4 and 3 mL of 1M KI. This is the analyte. The titration required 12.35 mL of the sodium thiosulfate solution to reach endpoint.


Homework Equations


here is the reaction equation for the titration (note: K is omitted because it plays no role in the reaction):IO3-(aq) + 6 S2O32-(aq) + 6 H+(aq)→ I-(aq) + 3 S4O62-(aq) +3 H2O(l)


The Attempt at a Solution


In order to determine the molarity of sodium thiosulfate, the molarity of the 50 mL potassium thiosulfate must be determined, then the amount of moles can be determined from that and using stoichiometric ratios, the moles of sodium thiosulfate can be determined and so forth... I have tried to use the equation C1V1=C2V2 but i get a weird answer:
C2= (0.01M)(1L)/(0.05L) = 0.2 M.
There is no way this can be correct as why would the concentration in a diluted solution be greater than the initial concentration?
 
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There is no such thing as "standard equations". You have to write correct reaction equation first, then use stoichiometry to solve the problem. That's the only correct approach.

No idea what you are trying to calculate with C1V1=C2V2. Where did you get 1L from?

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Borek said:
There is no such thing as "standard equations". You have to write correct reaction equation first, then use stoichiometry to solve the problem. That's the only correct approach.

No idea what you are trying to calculate with C1V1=C2V2. Where did you get 1L from?

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C1 is the initial concentration of the solution of potassium iodate, 0.01 mol/L, V1 is the initial volume of the solution, I assumed it was 1L, 20 mL of potassium iodate was diluted with 25 mL distilled water and 2 mL of 3M H2SO4 and 3mL of 1M KI were added. This would make the volume of the diluted solution 50 mL. C2 is the final concentration of the potassium iodate solution and V2 is the final volume, which I thought would be 50 mL. Now that I look at it, this equation may not really apply to this situation, I am just unsure about how to calculate the moles of potassium iodate.
 
chemnerd666 said:
There is 20 mL of 0.01 M potassium iodate mixed with

Doesn't matter what it was mixed with - this is your amount of iodate used for titration. Now, get the correct reaction equation, calculate correct amount of iodine produced, caculate amount of thiosulphate and so on.

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Thank you for your help :)
 

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