Solving -x^n: Pre-Calculus Confusion

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical expression -x^n and its interpretation, particularly in the context of pre-calculus. Participants explore the implications of notation, operator precedence, and the role of parentheses in determining the value of expressions involving negative bases and exponents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that -x^n is not equal to (-x)^n and provides the equation -x^n = -(x^2), expressing confusion over conflicting statements encountered in earlier studies.
  • Another participant clarifies that the equality -x^n = -(x^n) holds true, emphasizing the importance of parentheses in determining the correct interpretation of expressions.
  • There is a discussion about the assumption made when no parentheses are present, with some suggesting that -x^n should be interpreted as -(x^n) unless stated otherwise.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the claim -x^n ≠ (-x)^n for all n, with one participant noting that this is false for odd integers n.
  • Participants discuss operator precedence, stating that exponents are evaluated before signs, which affects the interpretation of expressions like -x^n.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the notation and expresses a desire for clarity on the matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of -x^n and its relationship to (-x)^n. While some agree on the importance of parentheses and operator precedence, there remains disagreement on the validity of certain statements regarding their equality across all integers n.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential for confusion stemming from notation and the absence of parentheses, as well as the varying interpretations that can arise in different educational contexts.

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Hello,

This is my first post here. I am sorry if this is the wrong place for this question or if my phrasing is unclear.

-x^n≠(-x)^n
-x^n=-(x^2)

I am slightly confused by this because at the level I am at right now (i.e. pre-calculus) and before, I have seen statements that contradict this. For example, I feel like I have been told from beginning algebra until now that -2^2=4. When is this true and when is it not?

I suppose it is a matter of notation?

Thank you.
 
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Depends on how you place the parentheses.

##(-2)^2 = (-2) \cdot (-2) = 4##
##-(2^2) = -[(2) \cdot (2)] = -4##

In general, ##-(x^n) = (-x)^n## if n is an odd integer.
 
Thank you for your swift response.

If there are no parentheses, what is assumed? Or does that vary from text to text?
 
I'd say that if there are no parentheses given, it's safe to assume that they mean ##-x^n = -(x^n)##, unless they explicitly say otherwise.
 
Husaaved said:
-x^n≠(-x)^n
-x^n=-(x^2)
Probably a typo in the 2nd equation. I guess you mean -x^n = -(x^n).
Husaaved said:
I am slightly confused by this because at the level I am at right now (i.e. pre-calculus) and before, I have seen statements that contradict this. For example, I feel like I have been told from beginning algebra until now that -2^2=4. When is this true and when is it not?

I suppose it is a matter of notation?
You should not have been told that -22 = 4. You might be misremembering what was said in class.
FeDeX_LaTeX said:
I'd say that if there are no parentheses given, it's safe to assume that they mean ##-x^n = -(x^n)##, unless they explicitly say otherwise.
I edited my earlier response. What you're saying is correct, FedEx_LaTeX, but you don't need the qualifier. ##-x^n## and ##-(x^n)## mean exactly the same thing.

According to the operator precedence, exponents are evaluated before signs.
-xn means the opposite of xn, or -(xn). If you want to raise -x to a power you have to include parentheses around the thing being raised to the power, like this: (-x)n.
 
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In addition, be careful about the first statement that you made.
-xn≠(-x)n does not hold for all n and x that you are used to using.
This statement is FALSE for all odd n. There is also some x for which this is false.
 
Mark44 said:
No, that is incorrect. According to the operator precedence, exponents are evaluated before signs.
-xn means the opposite of xn, or -(xn). If you want to raise -x to a power you have to include parentheses around the thing being raised to the power, like this: (-x)n.

Mark, I believe what you've written agrees with what FeDeX wrote.
 
economicsnerd said:
Mark, I believe what you've written agrees with what FeDeX wrote.
I now see that, and have revised what I wrote in that thread. My only excuse is that the "unless they explicitly say otherwise" part threw me off.

I'm so used to seeing people write, for example, -22 = +4, that I thought (erroneously, mea culpa) that that's what FedEx_LaTeX was saying. Hopefully, things are clear now.
 

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