Spectral theory in quantum mechanics

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the integrand in a specific equation related to spectral theory in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on projection operators and their properties in the context of continuous spectra. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and implications of these concepts.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of the integrand in the equation involving the projection operator \( E_\lambda \) and expresses uncertainty about their interpretation.
  • Another participant suggests that \( E_\lambda \) represents an element of a continuous set of projection operators, providing a completeness relation involving the integral of these operators.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of writing \( E_\lambda = |\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda| \) for continuous spectra, with one participant expressing doubt that this is only valid for discrete eigenvalues.
  • A later reply mentions that in a "rigged" Hilbert space, continuous eigenvalues may be allowed, but the participant is unsure about the proof or references for this claim.
  • One participant acknowledges that their previous response may not have addressed the original question adequately and expresses a desire for further clarification from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of certain mathematical formulations for continuous spectra, indicating that there is no consensus on the validity of writing \( E_\lambda = |\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda| \) in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential limitations of their interpretations, including the need for context to fully understand the integrand and the conditions under which certain mathematical expressions hold true.

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Can someone please tell me what the integrand in the below equation mean?
[tex]1 = \langle \psi | \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} d \langle \psi |E_\lambda \psi \rangle[/tex]
where,
[tex]E_\lambda[/tex] is an increasing (and absolutely continuous) function of projection operators such that [tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dE_\lambda = I[/tex]

( I read the integrand as a differential (or measure) of a complex constant, which should have been zero!? So I am certainly wrong in interpreting it)
 
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I would say that [tex]E_\lambda[/tex] corresponds to an element of a continuous set of projection operators i.e. [tex]E_\lambda=|\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|[/tex] with the completeness relation
[tex]\int dE_\lambda\equiv \int d\lambda |\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|=1[/tex].

In this sense the equation you wrote simply means

[tex]1=\langle\psi|\psi\rangle=\langle\psi|(\int dE_\lambda )|\psi\rangle =\int d\underbrace{\lambda\langle\psi|\lambda\rangle\langle \lambda|\psi\rangle}_{\langle \psi |E_\lambda\psi\rangle}[/tex]

Hope this helps
 
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Thanks!.. I get the drift.

As in, in the case of [tex]\lambda[/tex] belonging to the spectrum of position operators,
[tex]\langle \psi | E_\lambda \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\lambda} |\psi |^2 dx[/tex]
which is absolutely continuous and its differential is well defined ([tex]= | \psi |^2[/tex])

But, is writing [tex]E_\lambda=|\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|[/tex] valid even for [tex]\lambda \in[/tex] spectrum, which can be continuous?
I was of the opinion that it is valid only when [tex]\lambda[/tex] is an eigenvalue (and hence discrete).


And when you wrote [tex]E_\lambda=|\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|[/tex], I assume you meant the following:
[tex]E_\lambda=\sum_{\lambda_i \le \lambda} |\lambda_i\rangle\langle\lambda_i|[/tex]
 
guhan said:
Thanks!.. I get the drift.

As in, in the case of [tex]\lambda[/tex] belonging to the spectrum of position operators,
[tex]\langle \psi | E_\lambda \psi \rangle = \int_{-\infty}^{\lambda} |\psi |^2 dx[/tex]
which is absolutely continuous and its differential is well defined ([tex]= | \psi |^2[/tex])

Actually I think the answer I gave was not really what you were looking for. I just took a shot in the dark. To answer what the integrand means I would have to know in what context it appears. And I have a feeling even then I probably am not the right person to answer.

But, is writing [tex]E_\lambda=|\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|[/tex] valid even for [tex]\lambda \in[/tex] spectrum, which can be continuous?
I was of the opinion that it is valid only when [tex]\lambda[/tex] is an eigenvalue (and hence discrete).

I think that, in a "rigged" Hilbert space, continuous eigenvalues are allowed and one can safely write [tex]E_\lambda=|\lambda\rangle\langle \lambda[/tex] and even [tex]1=\int d\lambda |\lambda\rangle\langle\lambda|[/tex] but I don't know how to prove this or where proof could be found.


Sorry for not being able to help you. I hope somebody comes along who can.
 

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