Speed at a certain distance from the sun

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed of a comet at a distance of 6 x 10^12 m from the Sun, given its closest approach of 4.6 x 10^10 m and speed of 9.1 x 10^4 m/s. The relevant energy conservation equation used is KSun,f + Kcomet,f + Uf = KSun,i + Kcomet,i + Ui. The initial attempt at solving the problem resulted in an incorrect final speed of 75,656 m/s, prompting feedback that the potential energy (PE) equation was incorrectly set up, particularly regarding the sign of the PE. Accurate understanding of gravitational potential energy is crucial for resolving the issue.

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Hello! These problems of mine are due in the morning. I'm not sure whether or not I will be able to figure them out in time, but I do need to understand the process in order to prepare for my finals. So any help would be much appreciated! Thank you.

1. Homework Statement

A comet is in an elliptical orbit around the Sun. Its closest approach to the Sun is a distance of 4.6
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10^10 m (inside the orbit of Mercury), at which point its speed is 9.1
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10^4 m/s. Its farthest distance from the Sun is far beyond the orbit of Pluto. What is its speed when it is 6
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10^12 m from the Sun? (This is the approximate distance of Pluto from the Sun.)
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Homework Equations


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KSun,f + Kcomet,f + Uf = KSun,i + Kcomet,i + Ui

The Attempt at a Solution



I set KSun to 0 for both sides since the sun isn't moving.

Then I set up this equation:

(1/2)Mv2comet final+(6.7X10-11)(1.989x1030mass of the sun)/(distance)comet final=(1/2)Mv2comet initial+(6.7X10-11)(1.989x1030mass of the sun)/(distance)comet initial

And I isolated one of the velocities:

(vfinal2/2)+((6.67x-11)((1.989x1030)/6x1012)=((1/2)(9.1x104)2)+((6.67x10-11)(1.989x1030)/4.6x1010)

vfinal=sqrt(2*((1/2)(9.1x104)2)+((6.67x10-11)-((6.67x-11)((1.989x1030)(1.989x1030)/4.6x1010))

And I got 75,656 m/s, which isn't the correct answer. :(
 
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najatau said:
Hello! These problems of mine are due in the morning. I'm not sure whether or not I will be able to figure them out in time, but I do need to understand the process in order to prepare for my finals. So any help would be much appreciated! Thank you.

1. Homework Statement

A comet is in an elliptical orbit around the Sun. Its closest approach to the Sun is a distance of 4.6
multiply.gif
10^10 m (inside the orbit of Mercury), at which point its speed is 9.1
multiply.gif
10^4 m/s. Its farthest distance from the Sun is far beyond the orbit of Pluto. What is its speed when it is 6
multiply.gif
10^12 m from the Sun? (This is the approximate distance of Pluto from the Sun.)
speed

Homework Equations


[/B]
KSun,f + Kcomet,f + Uf = KSun,i + Kcomet,i + Ui

The Attempt at a Solution



I set KSun to 0 for both sides since the sun isn't moving.

Then I set up this equation:

(1/2)Mv2comet final+(6.7X10-11)(1.989x1030mass of the sun)/(distance)comet final=(1/2)Mv2comet initial+(6.7X10-11)(1.989x1030mass of the sun)/(distance)comet initial

The equation is wrong. Check the sign of PE.
 
ehild said:
The equation is wrong. Check the sign of PE.
There's more wrong with the PE than just the sign.
 

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