Standard conditions vs. Standard state

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between standard conditions and standard state in thermodynamics. Standard conditions refer to Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP), defined as 0°C and 1 bar, while Standard Ambient Temperature and Pressure (SATP) is set at 25°C and 1 bar. In contrast, the standard state provides a framework for comparing thermodynamic properties, allowing for calculations under various conditions, including those relevant in geochemistry. The standard state assumes ideal behavior for gases or solutions, which is crucial for accurate thermodynamic assessments.

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What's the difference between standard conditions and standard state? I noticed in my thermodynamics chapter that in standard state, the reaction quotient is 1 because all activities are equal to 1 (if I remember correctly).

Standard conditions is about standard temperature and pressure right?

Well is there any relation between the two terms? Anything that has to do with thermodynamics?

Thanks!

BiP
 
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I think there was a related discussion about this topic a while back, but anyway...

Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP) is considered to be 0°C and 1 bar. Because of the fact that STP requires a refrigerator to exist, many people will mention Standard Ambient Temperature and Pressure (SATP), which is 25°C and 1 bar. This should be, hopefully, the conditions at your typical lab bench. :)

A standard state is different. It's a set of conditions which allows for fairly easy comparisons of thermodynamic properties (and calculations thereof). While the standard state quantities one sees in textbooks for secondary level and introductory university level chemistry are for STP and/or SATP, they're not the only ones by any means. For example, if one gets into geochemistry, you're going to need standard state values at pressures nowhere near those values for doing your work. There's also an idealization of either gas or solution behavior (e.g., ideal gas behavior or infinite dilution limit).
 

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