Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the conventions of providing proofs in mathematical writing, particularly when a statement is considered 'obvious' or derived from inspection. Participants explore how to express the lack of a formal proof while maintaining clarity and brevity in communication.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Conceptual clarification
- Technical explanation
Main Points Raised
- Some participants suggest that phrases like "it is obvious that..." can be used, but caution that one must ensure the statement is genuinely obvious.
- Others argue that simply trying a few examples or using a calculator does not constitute a proof, referencing complex conjectures like the Collatz Conjecture as an example.
- A participant mentions that stating "by inspection" is acceptable, as it allows the reader to verify the claim, but it does not imply a complete proof.
- Another participant humorously notes that a common strategy among students is to label something as "trivial" to gain credit, despite the complexity of the proof.
- Several participants share anecdotes about instructors using casual phrases to describe proofs, highlighting a cultural aspect of mathematical communication.
- There is a discussion about the appropriateness of certain expressions and the evolution of language in mathematics, with some reflecting on past phrases that may be considered outdated or inappropriate today.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of providing proofs for statements deemed 'obvious' or derived from inspection. Multiple competing views remain regarding acceptable expressions and the implications of brevity in mathematical writing.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the subjective nature of what is considered 'obvious' and the potential for varying interpretations of brevity and clarity in mathematical proofs.