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Suppose a set of basis vectors are eigenvectors of some operator. So they will provide a one dimensional representation of that operator in the vector space?
The discussion revolves around the representation of operators in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on eigenvectors and their role in defining one-dimensional representations in vector spaces. Participants explore concepts related to self-adjoint operators, the spectral theorem, and the implications of one-parameter Lie groups in this context.
Participants express differing views on the implications of self-adjoint operators and the nature of representations in quantum mechanics. There is no clear consensus on the interpretation of the operator representations or the conditions under which they hold.
Some statements depend on specific definitions of operators and the nature of their spectra, which are not fully resolved in the discussion. The discussion also touches on the limitations of applying the spectral theorem to various types of operators.
Then on each 1-dimensional eigenspace one has a 1-dimensional representation.kent davidge said:Suppose a set of basis vectors are eigenvectors of some operator. So they will provide a one dimensional representation of that operator in the vector space?
isn't that the case only if the group is additive?vanhees71 said:If the operator ##\hat{A}## is self-adjoint, then it defines a unitary representation of a one-parameter Lie group via
$$\hat{U}=\exp(-\mathrm{i} \lambda \hat{A}).$$
oh yea, sorryvanhees71 said:Isn't this implied by the definition of "one-parameter Lie group"?
I'm guessing your underlying question is whether the operator can be represented in terms of the eigenvectors. For a self-adjoint operator ##A## on a Hilbert space, with eigenvectors ##|a\rangle##, where ##a## is a eigenvalue of ##A##, one can represent $$A ~=~ \sum_a a\, |a\rangle\langle a| ~.$$ This is a simple version of "the spectral theorem". More general versions are available for more general operators, i.e., operators that are not self-adjoint, but satisfy certain other property(ies). I could sketch more detail if indeed that was what you were really asking. (?)kent davidge said:Suppose a set of basis vectors are eigenvectors of some operator. So they will provide a one dimensional representation of that operator in the vector space?
Oops! Yes -- thank you.vanhees71 said:You mean [...]
This is valid for self-adjoint operators with a purely discrete spectrum only. For Hermitian operators with a continuous spectrum there are no eigenvectors. Or you need to embed the Hilbert space into the dual of a nuclear space and get an analogous representation involving distribution-valued bras and kets and integrals in place of the sum. In the mixed spectrum case you need a combination of sums and integrals.strangerep said:I'm guessing your underlying question is whether the operator can be represented in terms of the eigenvectors. For a self-adjoint operator ##A## on a Hilbert space, with eigenvectors ##|a\rangle##, where ##a## is a eigenvalue of ##A##, one can represent $$A ~=~ \sum_a a\, |a\rangle\langle a| ~.$$ This is a simple version of "the spectral theorem".
Yes, I know. The intent of my (incomplete) post was merely to try and zero in on what the OP was really asking about.A. Neumaier said:This is valid for self-adjoint operators with a purely discrete spectrum only. [...]