Stoichiometry Did I work this problem correctly?

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The discussion revolves around stoichiometry problems, specifically focusing on the calculation of the percent composition of sodium oxalate in a sample and the dilution of hydrochloric acid. Participants are examining the correctness of the solutions provided for these problems.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a stoichiometry problem involving sodium oxalate and potassium permanganate, detailing their calculations for percent composition.
  • Another participant confirms that the steps in the oxalate analysis appear correct but does not provide a definitive verification of the final answer.
  • A different participant introduces a second problem regarding the dilution of hydrochloric acid, initially providing a solution that is questioned for its method.
  • Subsequent replies suggest using a variable to represent the volume of water to be added in the dilution problem, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the number of moles of HCl constant.
  • One participant reiterates their rationale for using the dilution equation (V1M1 = V2M2) and calculates the final volume, which is confirmed as correct by another participant, although they note it differs from the previous suggestion of using a variable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the steps taken in the oxalate analysis but do not reach a consensus on the best method for solving the hydrochloric acid dilution problem. Multiple approaches are discussed without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the reactions and calculations involved, particularly regarding the stoichiometry and dilution processes. There is no resolution on the potential errors in the initial dilution method presented.

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Students or individuals interested in stoichiometry, dilution calculations, or those seeking peer feedback on chemistry problem-solving methods may find this discussion beneficial.

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Stoichiometry... Did I work this problem correctly?

1. We dissolve 3.778 grams of a sample that contains some sodium oxalate, Na2C2O4, in water and acidify the solution with excess sulfuric acid. The sample requires 18.74 mL of 0.08395 M KMnO4, potassium permanganate, for complete reaction according to the reaction below. What is the percent Na2C2O4 in the sample? Assume that no other component reacts with the potassium permanganate.

8H2SO4 + 2KMnO4 + 5Na2C2O4 --> 8H2O + 2MnSO4 + 10CO2 + 5Na2SO4 + K2SO4



My solution:

.01874 L * 0.08395 M KMnO4 = 0.001573223 mols KMnO4

0.001573223 * (5 mols Na2C2O4/2 mols KMnO4)
= .0039330575 mols Na2C2O4

.0039330575 * (116.04 g) * (100/3.778 g) = 12.08 %


(1 mol Na2C2O4 = 116.04 g)



I didn't round any numbers until the final answer. Does this look correct? If not where do you see an error? Thanks in advance for checking...
 
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And if it's not too much can you check this one too:1. How many mL of water must be added to 5.00 mL of 12.0 M HCl to prepare a hydrochloric acid solution that is 0.600 M? Assume that the volumes are additive.My solution:

(.00500 L * 12.0 M HCl)/(0.600 M) = .1 L = 100. mL
 


Your steps are good in the oxalate analysis.
 


You only are trying to make a simple dilution for the HCl 12M to 0.600M exercise. use a variable to represent the volume of water to add. You already know that the MOLES of HCl will not change. Next you want to try to create the equation ... You will need to use that variable somewhere. The variable is to be used in a denominator. Why not in a numerator?
 


I did not actually check your result in the HCl example; I only vaguely described what you can do to solve the problem. I like to arrange an equation using a variable for problems like that one.
 


thanks for the feedback, this is my rationale for setting up the problem the way I did:


V1M1 = V2M2

(.00500 * 12.0 M HCl) = (.600 M * V2)

divide both sides by .600 M

V2 = (.00500 * 12. M HCl)/(.600 M)

V2 = 100. mL
 


bedizzy said:
thanks for the feedback, this is my rationale for setting up the problem the way I did:


V1M1 = V2M2

(.00500 * 12.0 M HCl) = (.600 M * V2)

divide both sides by .600 M

V2 = (.00500 * 12. M HCl)/(.600 M)

V2 = 100. mL

Yes, that is a good way to do it. It is not like my "use variable for volume to add" suggestion, but your method looks good. Notice your final volume will be 100 ml. So, how much volume was added to the initial 5 ml. of solution?
 

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