Undergrad Studying the air layer over a solid object

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of studying the air layer over solid objects using spectroscopic methods. Key techniques mentioned include infrared spectroscopy, Beer's law, and the analysis of velocity, temperature, and chemical profiles at the interface. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the specific goals of the study, such as measuring evaporation from soil or solid substrates. Recommended resources include Brutsaert's book on evaporation and various academic papers on the eddy covariance method and lake evaporation.

PREREQUISITES
  • Infrared spectroscopy techniques
  • Understanding of Beer's law
  • Knowledge of temperature and gas concentration gradients
  • Familiarity with the eddy covariance method for estimating evaporation
NEXT STEPS
  • Read "Hydrology of Evaporation" by Brutsaert
  • Study the eddy covariance method for estimating evaporation from soil
  • Research the effects of climate variability on lake evaporation
  • Explore low-cost methods for monitoring water balance in small lakes
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Researchers, environmental scientists, and hydrologists interested in studying evaporation processes and air layer interactions over solid and soil surfaces.

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Hello all :

i was wondering is it possible to study the air layer over a solid object at the interface ? using spectroscopic methods ? for example density ?
 
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Short anwer: Yes.

Longer answer: Study for what? Velocity profile of moving air, temperature profile if the surface is different temperature, chemical profile if the surface is absorbing/emitting a gas (evaporating water?), plasma composition if the surface is really hot, pressure wave profile if the surface is vibrating, some combination of the above, what?
 
How thick is the interface layer of interest? Is there some sort of gradient of temperature or gas concentration?
AS @jrmichler says - we need to know more about this.
 
The others are quite right. We definitely need to know more about what you want to do. I think you could start your education with these terms for gases: infrared spectroscopy and bond vibrations, and Beer's law. You'll also need to know about the reflectivity or transmitivity as a function of frequency for the surface you are working with.
 
hello again this is some thing i was wondering about as a side project one day in the future , as a way to study the humidity of the soil (evaporating water?) , i can't concentrate on it now but just taking note for future or to pass it to some expert in the field if it is meaningful

i know we can use it for solid substrate , but what about soil with its different properties

thank you all
H.B.
 
If you want to study evaporation from soil, and especially if you intend to talk to experts in the field, first read (study would be better) this book by Brutsaert: https://www.amazon.com/dp/9027712476/?tag=pfamazon01-20. It is THE book on the subject.

Then follow that by reading this paper about the eddy covariance method of estimating evaporation: https://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/ja/ja_sun022.pdf.

Evaporation from open water is a little simpler. This paper by John Lenters et. al. is a good place to start: https://www.academia.edu/4981223/Ef...tudy_of_Sparkling_Lake_northern_Wisconsin_USA.

And a lower cost method of measuring evaporation from open water: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335029148_A_low-cost_hydrologic_observatory_for_monitoring_the_water_balance_of_small_lakes. I, of course, like this paper.
 
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I do not have a good working knowledge of physics yet. I tried to piece this together but after researching this, I couldn’t figure out the correct laws of physics to combine to develop a formula to answer this question. Ex. 1 - A moving object impacts a static object at a constant velocity. Ex. 2 - A moving object impacts a static object at the same velocity but is accelerating at the moment of impact. Assuming the mass of the objects is the same and the velocity at the moment of impact...

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