Sunrise and sunset correction for astronomical and geographical factors

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the difference of time between sunsets or sunrises with various factors taken into consideration, such as geographical formations, refraction of light, sun's angular radius, and parallax. Various formulas are presented and discussed to calculate the correction for these factors, including the use of the Sun's height, atmospheric refraction, and distance to the horizon. The conversation also mentions the need to consider the Sun's declination and the observer's latitude in calculating the time difference.
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Hi
I've been meaning to find a correction method for the true location of the sun so when I add the correction to the true sun it would give me the apparent sun. To clarify, I want to be able to calculate the difference of time between sunsets or sunrises if:
There were no geographical formations whatsoever, elevated or depressed, the entire planet being a perfect geoid in that case (observer's altitude would contribute to day length for increased height would move the horizon further away from the observer, allowing him to observe the sun longer),
There was no refraction of light (that would probably be comparable to having no atmosphere),
The sun was a point light source (a necessary comparison to compensate for the angular radius of the sun)
The parallax of the sun, however minute, did not contribute to the difference of time (the angle that the Earth's equatorial radius would subtend if observed from the center of the Sun)
And sunrises and sunsets if the four above-mentioned factors were as they are on our planet Earth. I know the question is phrased a bit noobish but it's been several years since I've graduated from Astronomy department and haven't studied since and all of a sudden I'm required to know the difference between these two situations. Please help me out here, how do I compensate for these factors?
 
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I've stumbled upon a set of formulae for my question but still I'd really appreciate an expert's opinion on the matter. The Formulae are as below:
cos a = r / (r + x)
r = 6373000 (Mean Earth radius in meters)
x = 625 (I've yet to figure out what this is and why the author of this method gave this value but I'm guessing it's the observer's altitude in meters)

R = Radius of the Sun (angular)
a = Angle of horizon's descent (The angular difference between the sunset or sunrise from the viewing point of an observer at an elevated location and those from the viewing point of an observer from the lowest-altitude area of the same location)
N = Amount of refraction at the horizon (This is to be calculated by keeping in account the observer's coordinates and altitude and atmospheric pressure)
P = Horizontal Parallax of the Sun (the angle that the Earth's equatorial radius would subtend if observed from the center of the Sun)
∆H = (180/∏)*(1/15)*((sin ∆h )/(Cos φ . cos δ . Sin t))
Cos H= (Cosz-sin φ.sin δ)/(Cos φ . cos δ)
Δh = R+a+N-P The angular difference between the center of the Mean Sun at sunset or sunrise at 0 altitude and the setting or rising edge of the Apparent Sun at the observer's altitude
∆H= Correction for the Hour Angle H= Hour Angle of the Sun z= Zenith Angle of the Sun φ= Latitude of the observer δ= Declination of the Sun
With the formulae above would H+∆H provide me with the correction for the factors I've mentioned in my previous post? If it would, how do I include the refraction and the horizontal parallax in this calculation? What method would be accurate to calculate the refraction at varying altitudes, zenith angles of the sun and latitudes?
 
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Please, anyone? Not a response? This is quite important for a large number of people I'm working with. Any professional insight would be truly appreciated.
 
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A formula for angular height (h) of a celestial body, e.g. Sun, is:

Sin h = (sin lat)(sin dec) + (cos lat)(cos dec)(cos hour angle).

Disregarding refraction, the Sun's height when its upper limb is at the horizon is about -[16' + 1.06'√(observer elevation in feet).

For elevations at or above 10,000 feet use -[16' + 1.07'√(observer elevation in feet)].

The semidiameter varies within about ±.3' of 16'. There is a table showing what it is throughout any year, and it is specified in the air and nautical almanacs.

[The height considering atmospheric refraction would be about -[16' + 34' + 1.15'√(observer elevation in feet)]. 16' is an average semidiameter of the Sun disk, 34' is a nominal amount of refraction of a Sunlight ray reaching the horizon. 1.15'√(observer elevation in feet) is an estimate of the arcdistance between the observer and the horizon; it takes into account dip and refraction; it comes from a (Thomas Young) formula for nautical mile distance to the horizon].

Sin h can be written as Sin -[16' + 1.06'√(observer elevation in feet)], and the equation can be rewritten as a formula solving for hour angle.

Combine that local hour angle with longitude to get the Greenwich Hour Angle of the Sun.

The Air Almanac, Nautical Almanac, and Online Nautical
Almanac tabulate the Sun's GHA. By interpolation the moment of time can be found when the GHA of the Sun is predicted to have that GHA.

Mark Prange
 
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Most common formulae for refraction break down at and below the horizon. Here's one that doesn't.

For an object with a true (unrefracted) altitude H in degrees:

compute v (in degrees) = H + (9.23 / (H + 4.59))
then refraction r in arcsec is :
r = 58.7 * cos v / sin v
and apparent altitude h = H + r/3600

For an object on the horizon, H=0, v=9.23/4.59 = 2.0109, r = 1671.8 arcsec, h=0.4644 degrees.

Computing corrections to sunrise/set times depends on the Sun's declination and the observer's latitude.
 
  • #6
Perhaps this is simpler:

For an airless world, distance to the horizon is

D = 3571.6 √h

... where D is the distance to the horizon in meters, and h is eye height in meters.

For Earth with a standard atmosphere:

D ≈ 3924.8 √h

This distance (and the differences between atmosphere and no-atmosphere conditions) can be converted to a time difference for a rising or setting object by:

T = cos θ * (D/40075029) * 1440

where θ is your latitude and T is in minutes.
 
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Thanks a lot for the replies, friends. I really appreciate it. I'll get to trying out these formulae as soon as I can and see if I can't implement them in our calculations. Much obliged.
 
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hipparchos said:
For an airless world, distance to the horizon is

D = 3571.6 √h

... where D is the distance to the horizon in meters, and h is eye height in meters.

I do hope you know that's just an approximation, and you didn't even get your units right.
 
  • #9
Whovian said:
I do hope you know that's just an approximation, and you didn't even get your units right.

Perhaps you would care to supply a correction.
 

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