Sun's Companion Star: Nemesis Theory

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The discussion revolves around the Nemesis theory, which posits the existence of a companion star to the Sun, potentially a red or brown dwarf, that could influence the solar system and contribute to mass extinction events on Earth. Participants explore the historical context, observational evidence, and implications of this theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions hearing about the Nemesis theory and seeks information on possible candidates or evidence for its existence.
  • Another participant references Walter Cruttenden's work, suggesting that the theory could align with ancient myths and imply significant implications for our understanding of civilization and cosmic influences.
  • A different participant argues that the original idea of a companion star causing mass extinction events is unsupported by fossil record periodicity and lacks evidence of impacts on other solar system bodies.
  • Observational data presented by another participant indicates that there are no known red dwarfs close enough to be in a stable orbit with the Sun, and while brown dwarfs are not fully ruled out, their potential existence in the relevant region remains undetected.
  • One participant states that the IRAS survey found no candidates for 'Nemesis', suggesting that deducing its existence from fossil records is largely unfounded.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express significant disagreement regarding the validity of the Nemesis theory, with some arguing against its existence based on observational data and fossil records, while others suggest it may still hold merit based on historical interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the fossil record's clarity regarding periodicity and the lack of contemporaneous impact evidence, as well as the unresolved status of brown dwarfs in the search for Nemesis.

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I herd of a theory about red or brown dwarf that is a companion star with the Sun.I looked on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_%28star%29" it doesn't too much about it.
Dose anyone know if there's been any stars that could possible Nemesis or if there's any evidnce of it's existence.
 
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I believe this idea came from Walter Cruttenden (I think he was interviewed once on Coast to Coast AM):
http://www.loststarbook.com
For years we have heard that these are only myths, there was no Golden Age and precession is just a wobbling of the Earth’s axis. Now Lost Star of Myth and Time shows evidence the Ancients were not just weaving fanciful tales - science is on the verge of an amazing discovery - our Sun has a companion star carrying us through a great cycle of stellar influences. If true, it means the Ancients were right and our views of space and time and the history of civilization will never be the same. More than that, it would mean we are now at the dawn of a new age in human development and world conditions.
but I fell asleep during the interview so I really don't remember all that he had to say. Made a nice bedtime story, though!
 
In terms of the original idea (a small star, or super-Jupiter, in a highly elliptical orbit, stirring up the Oort cloud and so creating mass extinction events here on Earth), it's dead - the periodicity in the fossil record is far from clear, there is no corresponding record of contemporaneous impacts on other solar system bodies, mass extinctions on Earth - with one notable, and possible two or three less notable, exceptions - cannot be tied to any impacts (by any of the usual measures), etc, etc, etc.

In terms of the observational data, it's pretty clear there are no red dwarfs close enough to be in any quasi-stable orbit, nor white dwarfs. Brown dwarfs are not yet fully ruled out, but the region of parameter space they could inhabit, undetected to date, is small.
 
IRAS surveyed the entire sky in the IR and found no 'Nemesis' candidates. Deducing the existence of 'Nemesis' from the fossil record was a stab in the dark, and now rather convincingly ruled out.
 

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