Superconductivity in the Presence of a Magnetic Field

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The discussion centers around the behavior of superconductive materials when subjected to a magnetic field, particularly focusing on the time it takes for a superconductor to reach its superconducting state when cooled in liquid nitrogen. Participants explore the effects of magnetic fields on superconductivity, resistance, and critical temperatures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the time to reach superconductivity (denoted as "x") will increase in the presence of a strong magnetic field due to the work required to exclude the magnetic field.
  • Another participant argues that superconductors have zero resistance (0 Ω), implying that the presence of a magnetic field does not affect the speed of conductivity, but notes that the critical temperature may be influenced by the magnetic field.
  • A different viewpoint states that an external magnetic field will decrease the temperature at which superconductivity occurs, potentially leading to longer cooling times.
  • One participant emphasizes that liquid nitrogen is very cold and can maintain superconductivity, while a magnetic field may cause the material to heat up above the critical temperature, thus affecting superconductivity.
  • Another participant provides detailed information about type II superconductors, specifically Yttrium Barium Copper Oxide (YBaCuO), discussing its high critical temperature and the effects of magnetic fields on its behavior, including quantum levitation phenomena.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of magnetic fields on the time to reach superconductivity and the relationship between resistance and critical temperature. No consensus is reached regarding the effects of magnetic fields on superconductivity.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various types of superconductors and their critical temperatures, indicating that the discussion may be limited by assumptions about the specific materials being referenced and the conditions under which they are tested.

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Curious: say, it takes a particular piece of superconductive material "x" seconds to reach the state when submerged in liquid nitrogen. Now, say we try to do the same in presence of a (strong) magnetic field. Does x increase, decrease or does it stay the same?

My money is on increasing, because it has to do work to exclude the magnetic field. Am I wrong?
 
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I haven't done much research but from what I know a superconductor has 0 Ω so there is no delay from point a to point b. So if you add a magnetic field it doesn't matter if it's strong or weak it will still have 0 Ω, you can't have -Ω because 0 Ω is the furthest your going to get in conductivity. You might see x decrees when the superconductor is submerged in liquid nitrogen and x being increased in any magnetic field not due to the effects of the 2 conditions but because the liquid nitrogen is very (VERY) cold so it will stay in superconductivity but if it's in any magnetic field there is nothing making it cooler so it heats up above the critical point for superconductivity and no longer has 0 Ω.

PS. Are you asking about a type ll superconductor or type l?
 
But for moment I wouldn't say your right or wrong.
 
An external magnetic field will decrease the temperature at which the superconducting transition occurs, so it will take longer for the material to superconduct (assuming you're starting at the same temperature and the critical temperature is still above the temperature of liquid nitrogen).
 
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Alex299792458 said:
I haven't done much research but from what I know a superconductor has 0 Ω so there is no delay from point a to point b. So if you add a magnetic field it doesn't matter if it's strong or weak it will still have 0 Ω
The resistance is not related to the original question, but it is not true: the critical temperature depends on the external magnetic field and resistance depends on the critical temperature (above: resistance, below: no resistance)
Liquid nitrogen at its boiling point is hot for most superconductors.

@korneld: see king vitamin's post, with a magnetic field it will take longer as it has to get colder.
 
In the case of a type ll superconductor of Yttrium Barium Copper Oxide(YBaCuO) people always use liquid nitrogen to cool it down because it has a very high temperature conductivity and by very high I like one of the highest temperature out of all superconductors with a whooping conductivity point of 90 kelvin and liquid nitrogen(N) is 77 kelvin, well nitrogen's boiling point is 77 kelvin but it can go lower but 77 kelvin is the hottest it gets there are other superconductors with higher temperatures like Mercury Barium Calcium Copper Oxide(HgBaCaCuO) with a outstanding superconductivity temperature of 134 kelvin there are other arrangements for high superconductivity temperatures like Strontium(Sr) or Titanium(Ti) which all have high superconductivity points because they have Copper(Cu) and Oxygen(O) together in the mix but the most common high temperature superconductivity point is Yttrium Barium Copper Oxide (or YBCO for short) which is really cheap and easy to get so they use it and also liquid nitrogen is also the cheapest but also the hottest liquid gas you can get and that's why combined with a high critical temperature YBCO makes a really cheap and efficient superconductor and yes I have did it before and when I placed it into a magnetic field of a neodymium(Nd) magnet it floated, well it's called quantum levitation and it's quantum locked but it looks like it's floating. You can watch some youtube videos about it link: to learn more. It works better with higher magnetic flux densities like neodymium(Nd) magnets. Also YBCO is speacil in it's own way all other high critical temperature crystals have a crystal structure of a teragonal but YBCO is orthorhombic.
 

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