Talent Worthy of Wider Recognition

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The discussion revolves around the recognition of various musicians and bands, particularly focusing on guitar techniques, concert experiences, and the impact of age and fame on performance quality. Participants share insights on specific artists, their performances, and the evolution of musical styles, with references to both historical and contemporary figures in music.

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  • Some participants attribute the invention of the double lead guitar technique to George Harrison, while others contest this by citing earlier examples from Les Paul and Ennemond Gaultier.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived correlation between ticket prices and concert quality, with one participant noting a negative correlation based on personal experiences.
  • Participants mention various artists, such as Orianthi, D_Drive, and Larkin Poe, highlighting their contributions to modern rock and the unique sounds they produce.
  • Yuki from D_Drive is noted for covering songs like "Highly Strung," and there are references to other young musicians like Li-sa-X and Maya Neelakantan, showcasing their talents and achievements.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of fame on performance quality, particularly in classical music, where younger, less-known musicians may deliver more passionate performances.
  • Some participants express admiration for specific performances and artists, while others question the consistency of quality across different concerts.
  • Matteo Mancuso is mentioned as an artist receiving significant recognition, with discussions around the dynamics of teamwork in bands.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the origins of musical techniques and the relationship between concert quality and ticket prices. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly concerning the recognition of various artists and the subjective nature of musical experiences.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on personal experiences and may not reflect broader trends. The discussion includes references to specific performances and artists that may not be universally recognized or agreed upon.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in music history, guitar techniques, concert experiences, and the dynamics of performance quality in relation to fame may find this discussion engaging.

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I love McCoy Tyner's cocktail piano.

 
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The Nankai Trio. The James Brown fatback beat goes fusion. Numba One on my hit parade.



That drum fill at 1:00 burns me up. Why doesn't everyone do that? They probably will, sooner or later.

Here's James and the Famous Flames doing the original fatback. They say the drummer is Clyde Stubblefield.



Dennis Chambers said that when he was 13 years old he was so good at the fatback beat that James tried to hire him. James wouldn't provide a tutor though so Mom said no.
 
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Shoko Okubo plays the blues.

 
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She was at this time 16 years old. It was a contest in which contestants played over the same prerecorded track.

 
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Junior High School band. 13 to 15 years old

 
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Nankai Trio. Guitarist Shoya Kitagawa [Northriver] burning it up.



They are performing in October in Tokyo in tiny jazz clubs. I might go see them.
 
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He's 72 years old.
 
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Japanese punk?
 
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difalcojr said:
Japanese punk?
I don't worry much about genres, but I'd say no. Punk had a emphasis on being unskilled. I'd say that ebass slapper has the best chops I've ever heard. Her stage name is F Chopper Kago. I once tried to get her autograph without buying any merchandise. She just smiled and said no.

Japanese rock tends to be a lot faster and complicated than the western style. Even TV shows have theme songs like this. Japanese kids are all energetic. No exceptions.
 
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There was a punk movement in Japan that died out some years ago. I like this number, which very strangely sounds like English. Is that just some huge coincidence? I guess so.



I once read "if there is ever an anarchist movement in Japan it will be a very well organized one."
 
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Hornbein said:

Wow, Jon Lord, Keith Emerson and Thijs Van Leer would be impressed I think!
 
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The creativity and talent in this world is astounding


 
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Ballad



Latin



She wrote these instant classics. Damn.
 
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The Outsiders! A real proto-punk psychedelic band that never made it. Too bad. They're good. Like the Dukes of Stratosphere but real.

 
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Not Mary Hopkin



The Red Army Ensemble! Can't beat that.

 
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I like the ebass player, Mel Brown. The drums are programmed! Fooled me.
 
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These Bandmaid live albums are like being beaten up in an alley. They could show the MC5 a thing or three. Dig those literal fireballs.

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Jimmy Page hugging the drummer.
He flew to Japan for the Bandmaid experience.​

These were released as higher-priced limited editions. I'm surprised the band allows them on the Internet. I guess eight years past was long enough.

Punch the CC button to get a translation. These are mostly love songs, as in expressing unhappiness within relationships.

When I got one I couldn't believe that a live recording could have such quality. I ran it by some recording engineers and they said it seemed OK to them.



The band revolves around the rhythm guitarist, who when the band was formed didn't play the guitar. For years she appeared onstage with the instrument not plugged in. Now it's in yo face.

I appreciate that the singer has memorized all those lyrics. These days local bands all use smartphones and tablets as prompters. I once saw a soul singer from the USA in Japan. He relied so heavily on "yeah yeah yeah" "baby baby baby" and "whoe whoe whoe" that I walked out.
 
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