Teaching Yourself Quantum Mechanics and Prerequisites

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to effectively teach oneself quantum mechanics, including the necessary mathematical and scientific prerequisites. Participants share their insights on the foundational knowledge required and suggest resources for self-study.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests opinions on self-teaching quantum mechanics, emphasizing the need for a structured approach that includes math and science prerequisites.
  • Another participant questions the initial level of knowledge, asking for clarification on whether the original poster has any background in physics or mathematics.
  • A suggestion is made to read Feynman's PhD thesis as a method for understanding quantum mechanics, noting its equivalence to traditional approaches.
  • One participant argues that a solid understanding of classical physics is essential before tackling quantum mechanics, suggesting that a year of classical physics would be beneficial.
  • Mathematical prerequisites mentioned include single-variable calculus, differential equations, vector calculus, and linear algebra, with an emphasis on understanding the infinite square well problem.
  • Another participant counters that for introductory quantum mechanics, only a basic understanding of algebra, trigonometry, and calculus is necessary, with additional requirements for more complex systems like the hydrogen atom.
  • One participant shares their experience teaching an introductory modern physics course that covers quantum mechanics under specific mathematical conditions, indicating it serves as a starting point rather than a comprehensive study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessary mathematical background for studying quantum mechanics, with some advocating for a more extensive foundation while others suggest a more minimal prerequisite knowledge. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to self-study.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding prior knowledge in physics and mathematics, indicating that the discussion is contingent on individual backgrounds and learning preferences. There is also a lack of consensus on the specific mathematical tools required for different levels of quantum mechanics study.

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I know this question has been asked before, so please don't assume I didn't browse the archives. I just want some additional opinions. I have limited experience with quantum mechanics, so assuming that I'm starting from absolute scratch, what would be a good way to teach myself quantum mechanics? By this, I would also like included math prerequisites, science prerequisites...pretty mush a step by step guide to understanding quantum mechanics. All feedback is welcomed and appreciated. Thank you.

Oh, and within the archives someone said that you guys should have a sticky about this topic exactly, and I second the motion...just in case you feel like being an overachiever.
 
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bstubbz17 said:
I just want some additional opinions.

In addition to what? What opinions have you seen already? Knowing that might help us avoid simply repeating stuff that you've seen already.

I'm starting from absolute scratch

Does that mean you haven't studied any physics at all? How about math? Do you need to start with basic algebra?
 
Go read Feynman's PhD thesis, he outlines his method of doing QM, which is perfectly equivalent to the usual way of doing QM. In fact, it is his method that we usually extend to QED (and QFT? Not sure). =)
 
Hmm...self-study of quantum mechanics is a tricky issue. Sure, it's fun to talk about the philosophy of QM in laymen's terms. But to actually do real QM, you need some physical and mathematical understanding. What are we talking about when you say that you're starting "from scratch?" If you've never done classical physics, then studying QM would be pretty much impossible. If you've got a year of classical physics, you should be good to go.

Mathematically speaking, for a barebones study of QM you'll probably want to know single-variable calculus like the back of your hand, and have some knowledge of differential equations and vector calculus. You'll need to know linear algebra, but if you did any matrices in high school then you can probably pick it up as you go along (one of the appendices in Griffiths' QM book gives a good overview). If you've got this, then you should be able to pick up an intro QM book off the shelf and understand the first chapter or two. You'll want to pay careful attention to the section on the infinite square well. This problem is simple enough that you should be able to solve the Schrödinger Equation and derive the wavefunctions and discretized energies without much trouble. I recommend playing around with the infinite square well problem for a few days to get a good understanding of wavefunctions, boundary conditions, eigenstates/eigenenergies, Fourier expansion of wavefunctions, and time evolution.

Good luck!
 
Actually, for an introduction to QM at the level of solving Schrödinger's equation for simple one-dimensional systems like the infinite square well ("particle in a box"), you don't need quite that much math. You need to be fluent in algebra, trig and exponential functions, basic differential and integral calculus (including of course trig and exponentials), and be acquainted with complex numbers and the concept of a differential equation.

Moving up to multidimensional systems like the hydrogen atom, you need to know about partial derivatives and multidimensional integration.

On the physics side, for one-dimensional situations you need to be familiar with classical concepts like momentum, energy (kinetic and potential) and the mathematical description of waves. For the hydrogen atom you need to know about angular momentum in addition.

I've taught a second-year "introductory modern physics" course that introduces QM under basically those conditions. It's not nearly as complete or rigorous a presentation as you'd get in a real QM course, but it's intended only as a starting point for further study.
 

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