The Center of the Milky Way Galaxy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of the center of the Milky Way galaxy, specifically focusing on the presence of a supermassive black hole and other stellar objects. Participants explore various aspects of this topic, including observational challenges and comparisons with black holes in other galaxies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about what exactly is at the center of the galaxy, noting that some articles suggest scientists are unsure.
  • There is a belief among participants that a supermassive black hole exists at the center, although references to this are requested.
  • Participants mention the presence of a star cluster contributing to the brightness at the center, with requests for references to support this claim.
  • Observational limitations due to interstellar dust are highlighted, indicating that the center cannot be studied using visible light.
  • Some participants assert that there is strong evidence for a supermassive black hole at the center, while others seek clarification on how this black hole functions compared to others in space.
  • Differences between the central black hole and other black holes are discussed, including mass and location within the galaxy.
  • It is noted that most galaxies are believed to have supermassive black holes at their centers, along with many other star systems.
  • Participants discuss the possibility of two supermassive black holes existing after a galaxy collision, with a mention of LIGO's detection of black holes of smaller masses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is a supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, but there remains uncertainty about the specifics and implications of this. Multiple competing views about the nature and function of black holes persist, and the discussion remains unresolved on several points.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on observational data that is hindered by interstellar dust, and the discussion reflects varying levels of understanding regarding the characteristics and behaviors of black holes.

Goatman
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I am unsure on what exactly is at the center of the galaxy. I looked up some articles but some stated that scientists are unsure.
 
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Goatman said:
I am unsure on what exactly is at the center of the galaxy. I looked up some articles but some stated that scientists are unsure.
I'm pretty sure there is a supermassive black hole at the center. Do you have a reference saying otherwise?
 
I also heard of there being a star cluster which maybe proves why it is so bright in the center
 
Goatman said:
I also heard of there being a star cluster which maybe proves why it is so bright in the center
Do you have a reference?
 
It also says there is strong evidence for a supermassive black hole at the center. And it goes on to say...

"Because of interstellar dust along the line of sight, the Galactic Center cannot be studied at visible, ultraviolet or soft X-ray wavelengths. The available information about the Galactic Center comes from observations at gamma ray, hard X-ray, infrared, sub-millimetre and radio wavelengths."

So we can still observe it, but not with visible light.
 
Goatman said:
I am unsure on what exactly is at the center of the galaxy. I looked up some articles but some stated that scientists are unsure.

Scientists are confident that there is both a supermassive black hole near the center of the galaxy and that there are many other stars in the same region. The wikipedia article gives a good overview of our current knowledge about the galactic center. Is there anything in particular that you don't understand?
 
so how does this black hole function within the center?
 
Goatman said:
so how does this black hole function within the center?

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "function" in this context?
 
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meaning how does this black hole (in the center) differ from other black holes that apeear in space
 
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Goatman said:
meaning how does this black hole (in the center) differ from other black holes that apeear in space

Well, other galaxies also have supermassive black holes in their centers, and there are also smaller black holes spread around the galaxy and in other galaxies. Other than the specific mass, the only differences would be that our is located in the center of our galaxy and other aren't.
 
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Goatman said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Center
This is the wikipedia article
It states that we can not observe the center because of "interstellar dust"
There's an extremely massive and compact object (black hole) that has entire stars orbiting it like they were tiny planets. This video is a great visual:

 
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Drakkith said:
Other than the specific mass, the only differences would be that our is located in the center of our galaxy and other aren't.
And rotation (or lack of rotation) of the BH could also be a difference.
 
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So not only in our Milky Way galaxy is there is a supermassive black hole in the center, it seems that most galaxies do,
As well as that, the center is also crowded with lots of other star systems, and again most galaxies are like that.
Outside of the center there can be stellar mass black holes, but the SMBH in a galaxy is a very different creature, and there is only one in a typical galaxy.
There could be two after a galaxy collision, but those are expected to merge eventually
 
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rootone said:
There could be two after a galaxy collision, but those are expected to merge eventually
Is that what LIGO detected last year, or was it just two rogue black holes colliding?
 
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Comeback City said:
Is that what LIGO detected last year, or was it just two rogue black holes colliding?

They were black holes of around 29 and 36 solar masses each.
 
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Drakkith said:
They were black holes of around 29 and 36 solar masses each.
For contrast, the black holes at the centers of galaxies typically have masses of millions to billions of solar masses.
 

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