The Controversial Water Engine: Separating Fact from Fiction

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a water engine, exploring claims about its functionality, the role of salt water, and the implications for the petroleum industry. Participants express curiosity about the scientific principles behind these claims, including the effects of radio waves on water and the nature of combustion products.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why an invention purported to use water as fuel has not yet changed the world, expressing concern about the future of the petroleum industry.
  • Another participant speculates that a microwave beam could split saltwater into hydrogen and oxygen, producing thermal energy when burned.
  • A different participant clarifies that CO2 is produced during combustion of organic compounds, suggesting that combustion is fundamentally an oxidation reaction.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the necessity of salt water, with one suggesting that distilled water is less accessible than salt water, which is abundant.
  • Concerns are raised about the claims of cold flames and the creation of water droplets during combustion, questioning the feasibility of such engines being mass-produced.
  • One participant dismisses the entire concept as "crackpottery," referencing previous discussions on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, with some expressing skepticism about the water engine concept while others explore its potential. Multiple competing views remain regarding the scientific validity of the claims made about water as fuel.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the chemical processes involved, including the role of salt in water splitting and the nature of combustion products. There is also a lack of experimental evidence presented to support the claims made.

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hey

i just came across these videos on you tube

1 [crackpot link deleted]

i wonder how come that invention hasn't changed our world YET

dOes petroleum INDUSTRYu have a future... ( i am petroleum engineerin :((((((((((((((((((

also can anybody explain how come the radio wave break the H-O bond in water and it LIGHT up... I thought that in COMBUSTION the PRODUCST ARE ALWAYS CO2 and H2O

that's weird... and WHY do we need salt water since THese radio waves can break that O-H bond in DISTILLED WATER AS WELL... why is the salt so important? and WHAT ARE THE BYPRODUCST OF THAT REACTION SINCE THERE IS NO CO2?

WHAT DO U THINK GUYS...

i think i have to change my major... i don't want to be without a job one day...


2 - [crackpot link deleted]


how come the flame is cold if you touch it and super hot when attached to another material...

also when he burns that white surface... and shows the water drops... How are they actually created? -

and when he shows that he drives his car with water... i am asking myself... WHY IN THE WORLD SUCH ENGINE ARE NOT BUILD YET?


they show it is done.. water is FUEL//... the answered is found...

what takes them so long before starting mass production?


please ponder upon these questions and explain me WHY :)))

thans
 
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zinedine_88 said:
please ponder upon these questions and explain me WHY :)))

thans

I haven't done the experiment, but I believe the outcome would look something like this:

A 1.0 kilo-watt microwave beam is pointed at a vial of saltwater. The water splits into hydrogen and oxygen atoms, which when burned, generate 0.1 kilo-watt of thermal energy.

I would keep your day job if I were you.
 
1. don't change your major.

2. @OmCheeto: +1

3. [itex]\textrm{CO}_2[/itex] is produced on combustion when organic compounds combust [or other compounds which have carbon in them]. Combustion reactions are basically oxidation reactions only. The oxidation of a Magnesium strip is a lot like combustion, but neither [itex]\textrm{H}_2\textrm{O}[/itex] or [itex][itex]\textrm{CO}_2[/itex]<br /> <br /> 4. I don't know if this has to do anything with ionic phenomena, but if it does.. then salt water is necessary. If it doesn't... and as you said that this happens with distilled water too.. then the point i think is that distilled water isn't easy to find. However, we have salt water in abundance which we can use to create energy.[/itex]
 

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