The equation of state of radiation

  1. the EOS of radiation (photon gas surrounding a black hole)

    Why does the EOS of radiation set to 1/3? Where does this come from?
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009
  2. jcsd
  3. nicksauce

    nicksauce 1,275
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    Heuristic argument:

    P = N * F/A
    P = N * dp_x/dt / A
    P = N * dp_x / (L / v_x) / A

    And v^2 = v_x^2 + v_y^2 + v_z^2 = 3v_x^2 -> v = sqrt(3) v_x
    We can make a similar argument for the components of momentum to get an overall factor of 3.

    P = N/V * <pv> / 3

    Then for a photon gas <pv> is the energy, so we have

    P = Energy per particle * Number / Volume / 3 = energy density / 3

    Another way I have seen it derived, is to take the EM Stress tensor, show that it must be traceless, and compare that with the general identity (for a perfect fluid)
    [tex]T^{\mu}_{\mu} = -\rho + 3p[/tex]
     
  4. If there is a layer of photon gas surrounding a black hole‘s surface, will the pressure of this gas still be isotropic? In other words, the energy tensor is still
    [tex]\begin{display}
    T^{\mu}_{\nu}=\left(
    \begin{array}{cccc}
    \rho & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
    0 & -p & 0 & 0 \\
    0 & 0 & -p & 0 \\
    0 & 0 & 0 & -p \\
    \end{array}
    \right)
    \end{display}[/tex]
    , isn't it? Or the g11 is not equal to g22,g33 any more?
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2009
  5. nicksauce

    nicksauce 1,275
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    I would think so, but I'm not terribly certain.
     
  6. Does somebody know that which book gives the detail derivation of this formula—the energy-momentum tensor of radiation, namely
    [tex]
    \begin{display}
    T^{\mu}_{\nu}=\left(
    \begin{array}{cccc}
    \rho & 0 & 0 & 0 \\
    0 & -p & 0 & 0 \\
    0 & 0 & -p & 0 \\
    0 & 0 & 0 & -p \\
    \end{array}
    \right)
    \end{display}
    [/tex]
    ?
     
  7. Wallace

    Wallace 1,253
    Science Advisor

    That is actually the form for any perfect fluid (i.e. one in which we can neglect viscosity and voritcity). Any GR textbook will have some amount of explanation about the derivation of this. I find 'Gravitation' by Hartle an excellent introductory textbook, but others will have this info also.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share a link to this question via email, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?