The FAQ on proofs should emphasize definitions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the suggestion to enhance the FAQ on proofs by placing greater emphasis on the importance of definitions in mathematical proofs. Participants explore the relationship between definitions, theorems, and axioms, and how misunderstandings can arise from incorrect interpretations of definitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that many textbook proofs rely heavily on correctly interpreting definitions, suggesting that the FAQ should reflect this emphasis.
  • Another participant notes that misunderstandings in proofs often stem from individuals using their own interpretations of definitions rather than the accepted mathematical definitions.
  • A specific viewpoint is mentioned where some forum members hold a "Platonic" view of mathematical objects, believing they exist independently of definitions, which may hinder effective proof writing.
  • A later reply indicates that improvements have been made to the FAQ to include mentions of definitions and lemmas, along with some wording adjustments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of definitions in proofs, but there is no consensus on the philosophical implications of how mathematical objects are viewed. The discussion remains open regarding specific improvements to the FAQ.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations in the discussion include the lack of specific examples of definitions that may cause confusion and the dependence on varying philosophical perspectives regarding mathematical objects.

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I think the FAQ on proofs would be improved if it emphasized the use of defintions. It says that theorems and axioms are used in proofs, but many many textbook type proofs hinge on "parsing" definitions correctly.

As alluded to in the FAQs related to "is .999.. = 1?", many difficulties that people have with proofs arise because they substitute their own mangled definitions of what things are in place of the actual definitions. For example, I notice that several forum members express a "Platonic" view of mathematical objects. They believe these objects exist independently of the definitions that mathematics makes for them. That may be fine as a general philosophy of life, but it is ineffective as an approach to writing mathematical proofs.

(I suppose this post falls under Science Education, but that section doesn't show a link to the math FAQs, so I posted here.)
 
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Thank you for your wonderful comments, Stephen! You are certainly correct in saying that.
Could you perhaps post a possible improvement to the FAQ? That way we can integrate your comments.
 
OK, I promise to post something in this thread, but it might take a few weeks. I'm a very busy man - retired, you know. It eats up all your time.
 
I added that proofs use definitions and included lemmas as well. I also cleaned up the wording in two or three other places.
 

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