"The Federal Reserve is raising interest rates to reduce inflation"

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The discussion revolves around the implications of the Federal Reserve raising interest rates and its relationship with inflation. Participants explore the mechanisms through which interest rate changes may influence borrowing, consumption, and ultimately, price levels in the economy. The conversation includes theoretical considerations, real-world complexities, and the potential for contradictory outcomes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that raising interest rates means banks must repay loans from the Federal Reserve at higher rates, but questions the correctness of this understanding.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial supposition but emphasizes that the situation is more complex, noting that higher interest rates can discourage borrowing and consumption, potentially leading to lower prices.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of this mechanism, particularly in non-competitive markets or highly leveraged economies, where raising interest rates might not lead to the expected deflationary effects.
  • There is speculation about conditions under which raising interest rates could exacerbate inflation rather than mitigate it, suggesting a feedback loop in the economy.
  • One participant points out that increased borrowing costs could lead to higher prices for essential goods and services, affecting consumers differently based on their financial situations.
  • Another participant highlights the disparity in impact between individuals with cash savings and those living paycheck-to-paycheck, who may face increased costs due to rising credit card interest rates.
  • A participant expresses frustration that their question about the inflationary effects of increased interest rates has not been addressed by others in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the relationship between interest rates and inflation, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the basic mechanisms involved, while others highlight complexities and potential contradictions in the effects of raising interest rates.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about economic behavior, the role of credit, and the impact of interest rates on different segments of the population. Limitations in understanding the feedback mechanisms and the specific conditions under which interest rate changes may influence inflation are noted but remain unresolved.

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A few years ago I was talking to another trucker in the driver's lounge at a truckstop about inflation. This other trucker said that the Federal Reserve is raising interest rates to reduce inflation. At the time, I didn't know that raising interest rates would cause inflation to decrease, and I only focused on that fact. But later on something else occurred to me, I don't know what the heck that the statement that the Federal Reserve raised interest rates means exactly. I will put my supposition on how this works in green text. My supposition is that maybe the fact that the Federal Reserve raised interest rates means the following: The Federal Reserve loans money to banks for the purpose of adding currency into the circulation. If the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, it just means that the banks that the Federal Reserve loans money to have to pay the loan back to the Federal Reserve at a higher interest rate.

Is my supposition correct?
 
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sevensages said:
If the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, it just means that the banks that the Federal Reserve loans money to have to pay the loan back to the Federal Reserve at a higher interest rate.

Is my supposition correct?
One's supposition is correct, but it is more complicated than just the backs. The banks and other financial institutions raise downstream interest rates, which in theory discourages borrowing, which discourages purchasing (consumption), which in theory leads to lower prices as sellers reduce prices to sell to reluctant buyers. In reality, it doesn't necessarily work that way, especially if the markets are not competitive, or if the bulk of the economy is highly leveraged, as in much of the economy functions on credit.

In some situations, if the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, the action may exacerbate inflation. If interest rates function as feedback in the economy, and raising interest rates is considered negative feedback (deflationary), then under what conditions can raising interest rates become positive feedback (inflationary)?
 
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Astronuc said:
One's supposition is correct, but it is more complicated than just the backs. The banks and other financial institutions raise downstream interest rates, which in theory discourages borrowing, which discourages purchasing (consumption), which in theory leads to lower prices as sellers reduce prices to sell to reluctant buyers. In reality, it doesn't necessarily work that way, especially if the markets are not competitive, or if the bulk of the economy is highly leveraged, as in much of the economy functions on credit.

In some situations, if the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, the action may exacerbate inflation. If interest rates function as feedback in the economy, and raising interest rates is considered negative feedback (deflationary), then under what conditions can raising interest rates become positive feedback (inflationary)?

I don't know what conditions could cause raising interest rates to exacerbate inflation.
 
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I don't know what conditions could cause raising interest rates to exacerbate inflation.
Increased cost of borrowing for commercial paper or short term notes could result in increased rent, or an increase in cost of commodities at different points in the economy, e.g., increased cost of fertilizer and/or fuel, . . . . Effects will vary for someone on a fixed rate mortgage vs an adjustable rate mortgage.

For people living paycheck-to-paycheck, some/many may buy groceries, medicine, or other consumer products on credit cards, so an increase in interest rates upstream usually leads to an increase in credit card interest rate, which increases the cost to the consumer. In other words, the cost of borrowing may eventually be passed to the ultimate consumer.

Someone with a lot of cash/savings is not affected by higher interest rates as much as someone who has little or no spare cash or savings.

i have posed the question about increased interest rates contributing to inflation. No one wants to address that publicly.
 

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