The Force a man exerts on an object when in a elevator

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The discussion revolves around the forces exerted by a courier on a package while using an elevator, focusing on different scenarios of motion including constant velocity and acceleration. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically Newton's laws of motion and force analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the package in various scenarios, questioning how to combine forces when the elevator is accelerating or decelerating. There is an exploration of free body diagrams to clarify the relationships between forces.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the calculations, particularly in understanding the need to add forces when the elevator is accelerating. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the application of forces in different scenarios.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the distinction between velocity and acceleration, as well as the need for clarity on how to apply Newton's second law in the context of the elevator's motion.

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A courier is delivering a 5kg package to an office high in a tall building.
a) What upwards force does the courier apply to the package when carrying it horizontally at a constant velocity of 2m/s into the building?
B) The Courier uses the elevator to reach the office. While the elevator (Containing the courier holding the package) is accelerating at 0.11m/s/s, what upwards force does the courier apply to the package?
C) when the elevator is traveling upwards at a constant speed of 6m/s what upwards force deos the courier apply to the package?
D) in order to stop at the correct floor the elevator accelerates downwards at a rate of 0.2m/s. What is the upward force that the courier applies to the package during deacceleration?



Force= mass x acceleration
Weight = mass x gravity constant




A)

W= mg
= 5 x 9.81
= 49N upwards

(F=ma - f=5x2 f= 10N forwards)

B)

F= ma
= 5 x 0.11
= 0.55N upwards

However I am struggling with questions B,C and D as I don't know whether the 0.55N needs to be added to the 49N upwards already or whether it is just plain 0.55N. I think the courier applies the same 49N upwards and the elevator forces him up at 0.55N but I'm guessing this is wrong. Anyone know the answers or could help out with the remaining questions? Ta :)
 
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Hello Amy,
It will probably help you to see the reasoning behind the question if you sketched free body force diagrams:
B.There are two forces on the package
1.The weight of 49N which acts downwards and remains constant
2.The upward force(F) that the courier exerts.
Since the lift(elevator) is accelerating upwards F must be bigger than 49N and we can write:
F-49=Ma=5 times 0.11.So you do add the 0.55N to the weight but hopefully you can now see more clearly why.
 
in question C he has to apply only 49N force as the elevator is not accelerating
 
In A there us NO horizontal force. That "2 m/s" is velocity not acceleration. Since his velocity is constant, his acceleration is 0.

In B, the elevator is pushing him upward at 0.11 m/s/s and the courier must then apply f= ma to the package in addition to its weight.
 
Yeah that does make it clearer, Thank you!
In D) I just use, F=ma= 5 x -0.2= 1N downwards
and then add the 49N up and -1N and get 48N upwards force when the elevator is deaccelerating. Correct?
 
Right answer but try to get into the habit of sketching free body force diagrams and writing out the second law showing the resultant force:

49-F=Ma
 
Ok yeah, I see the benefit now :) Thank you so much!
 

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