The Fundamental Nature of Angular Momentum in Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around the nature of angular momentum in quantum mechanics, particularly the division between orbital angular momentum and spin. Participants explore whether this division is fundamental or arises from classical analogies, and how it applies to different types of particles, including massive and massless ones.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a textbook that describes angular momentum operators as generators of transformations, questioning the fundamental nature of the division between orbital and spin angular momentum.
  • Another participant suggests that the split between orbital and spin angular momentum is fundamental for massive particles, as their states are covariant under specific symmetry groups.
  • A question is raised about whether the division of angular momentum is different for less massive particles.
  • It is noted that spin is defined as the angular momentum of a particle in its rest frame, which leads to complications for massless particles like photons, where helicity replaces spin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the fundamental nature of the division between orbital and spin angular momentum, with some arguing it is fundamental for massive particles while others question its applicability to massless particles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications for less massive particles.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on definitions of angular momentum and the assumptions regarding the existence of a rest frame for particles, particularly in the context of massless particles.

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My textbook "The physics of quantum mechanics" by James Binney and David Skinner, describes the pseudo-vector operators \vec{J}, \vec{L} & \vec{S} as generators of various transformations of the system. \vec{J} is the generator of rotations of the system as a whole, \vec{L} is the generator of displacement of the system around circles without rotations, and \vec{S} is the generator for changes of orientation that are not accompanied by any motion of the system as a whole.

In the book, \vec{J} is defined as the generator of rotations, while \vec{L} is defined by \vec{L} = \vec{x} \times \vec{p}, and then \vec{S} is defined by \vec{S} = \vec{J} - \vec{L}. My issue with this is that \vec{L} seems to have been defined by classical analogy, which leads me to question how fundamental the division of angular momentum into orbital and spin is. The book later describes spin as intrinsic to the particle, which implies that it is, in fact, a fundamental division. Assuming it is fundamental, can you predict that mathematically, or is it an observational fact?
 
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This split makes sense for massive particles whose states are covariant under the space-time isometry group, be it the Galilei group or the restricted Poincare group, so in a sense it is fundamental.
 
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So is it divided up differently for less massive particles?
 
Spin is the angular momentum of a particle in its rest frame. This presupposes that the rest frame exists. For massless particles, like the photon, this is not the case.
For massive particles, spin, mass and charge are the defining properties of the particles identity. For massless particles, spin gets replaced by helicity.
 
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