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The discussion centers on the historical and practical aspects of anesthetics and pain management, highlighting drugs such as scopolamine, opium, cocaine, lidocaine, fentanyl, and metronidazole. It references the evolution from early remedies like alcohol and physical restraint to modern anesthesia techniques used in dentistry and surgery. Notable historical figures like William Stewart Halsted and Sigmund Freud are mentioned for their roles in anesthetic research and addiction to cocaine. The thread also touches on the dangers of drug misuse, historical anecdotes, and the development of dental anesthesia from barber surgeons to contemporary practices involving sedatives and analgesics.

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  • Antibiotic interactions with alcohol, specifically Metronidazole contraindications

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  • #31
It really annoys me that I can't find my favorite author who wrote about the decisive battle of Poltava where Sweden lost bigtime to Russia, in part due to their demented child king, which reminds me again of Catherine the Great and her "husband". She had to endure him playing with toy soldiers in their marriage bed (luckily for her I'm not sure he ever found out where to put his .ong. And he was murdered pretty unceremoniously when she took power. She wanted it to look like it wasn't her intent, but I don't believe that for a second. Girl had ambitions, and she realized them! And thinking about her childhood I can't blame her. Being born an aristo in those times wasn't as fun as it might sound.

He's probably not taken so seriously historically (my author), but he could tell a story.

I'll come up with the name suddenly. I've read chapters aloud for people both young and old, and they all enjoyed it.

EDIT: OK that was somewhat messy.
 
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  • #32
I had a point re anagelsic but I'l have to wait till I find his name.
 
  • #33
sbrothy said:
It really annoys me that I can't find my favorite author who wrote about the decisive battle of Poltava where Sweden (in part due to their demented king made Catherine the Great endure her "husband" playing with toy soldiers in their marriage bed (luckily for her I'm not sure he ever found out where to put his .ong. And he was murdered pretty unceremoniously when she took power. She wanted it to look like it wasn't her intent, but I don't believe that for a second. Girl had ambitions, and she realized them! And thinking about her childhood I can't blame her. Being born an aristo in those times wasn't as fun as it might sound.

He's probably not taken so seriously historically, but he could tell a story.

I'll come up with the name suddenly. I've read chapters aloud for people both young and old, and they all enjoyed it.
Is his name Peter Englund (author of The Battle That Shook Europe: Poltava and the Birth of the Russian Empire)? Sometimes I use open source AI to search for things on the tip of my tongue.
 
  • #34
sbrothy said:
I love apocryphal stories! :woot:

AlexB23 said:
Is his name Peter Englund (author of The Battle That Shook Europe: Poltava and the Birth of the Russian Empire)? Sometimes I use open source AI to search for things on the tip of my tongue.
No, ironically he had a very Swedish name and it was obvious that he searched local libraries for diaries from soldiers at the battle thus making his stories very realistic.

EDIT: Sometimes over the top too, but who's to say what was was real. It was first in the middle of the war they started to sharpen their swords. Goes to show how "innocent" war was back then and still thousands died.
 
  • #35
sbrothy said:
No, ironically he had a very Swedish name and it was obvious that he searched local libraries for diaries from soldiers at the battle thus making his stories very realistic.

EDIT: Sometimes over the top too, but who's to say what was was real. It was first in the middle of the war they started to sharpen their swords. Goes to show how "innocent" war was back then and still thousands died.
Hmm, was his name Alf Åberg, and he wrote Karolinska kvinnoöden?

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43105706-karolinska-kvinno-den
 
  • #36
No, but we're getting closer it was something with M. His name started with M, I think.
 
  • #37
sbrothy said:
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I'll come up with the name suddenly. I've read chapters aloud for people both young and old, and they all enjoyed it.
[...]

And as I stutter, it says something of his talent for telling a story.
 
  • #38
sbrothy said:
No, but we're getting closer it was something with M. His name started with M, I think.
Or his name contained an M? Was he Herman Lindqvist with Historien om Sverige?
 
  • #39
No..... I promise I'll find it tomorrow, but it's 23:00 here and I'm pretty tired.
 
  • #40
sbrothy said:
No..... I promise I'll find it tomorrow, but it's 23:00 here and I'm pretty tired.
I wish you luck, brother. One final attempt: Magnus Västerbro
 
  • #41
Also I didn't know you were such a Swedish buff or is the Claude doing the work! :woot:
 
  • #43
sbrothy said:
Also I didn't know you were such a Swedish buff or is the Claude doing the work! :woot:
Ahh, a Mistral model. I really wanted to help you jog your memory. I find Europe fascinating, so I wanted to help you.
 
  • #44
pinball1970 said:
Looks like he did!

https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014.08.17/
Ingenius. I must admit I seem to remember something similar from the "Emperor of Maladies", but I was just gonna let you go down with the boat! :woot:
 
  • #45
AlexB23 said:
Ahh, a Mistral model. I really wanted to help you jog your memory. I find Europe fascinating, so I wanted to help you.
An you did. It did indeed jog my memory. I'm sure I'll find him tomorrow. I've read him several hundred times. Both to myself but also on hospices and libraries.
 
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  • #46
sbrothy said:
An you did. It did indeed jog my memory. I'm sure I'll find him tomorrow. I've read him several hundred times. Both to myself but also on hospices and libraries.
You're welcome. I am glad I got you closer to finding the guy. It is wholesome how you read books to other, brother. People need to do that again. Good community building
 
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  • #47
Of course people don't call me Søren "Book" without reason. I can hardly remember half of I read.
 
  • #48
sbrothy said:
Of course people don't call me Søren "Book" without reason. I can hardly remember half of I read.
Still, that is impressive. Maybe keep a log of all the books you have read in a spreadsheet, so you can refer back to the titles or authors later on.
 
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  • #49
Not a bad idead. But sometimes I read commercials and books about infant gymnastics (and I don't have children, I just grab what closest on a shelf!). Perhaps I'm better of if that is forgotten. :smile:
 
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  • #50
sbrothy said:
Not a bad idead. But sometimes I read commercials and books about infant gymnastics (and I don't have children, I just grab what closest on a shelf!). Perhaps I'm better of if that is forgotten. :smile:
That is pretty random. Maybe don't log those. You make this forum a cool place with your humor
 
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  • #51
I've really been searching but so far to no avail. I must have one of his books lying at home....
 
  • #52
AlexB23 said:
That is pretty random. Maybe don't log those. You make this forum a cool place with your humor
Why thank you!:smile:
 
  • #53
sbrothy said:
Why thank you!:smile:
You're welcome, brother.