The Jessica Lynch Story: Fact vs Fiction

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The discussion centers around the portrayal of Jessica Lynch's experiences during the Iraq War, examining the narrative of her capture and rescue, and the implications of her story as a tool of propaganda. Participants explore themes of heroism, media representation, and personal agency, with a focus on the moral and ethical dimensions of her story and its aftermath.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Jessica Lynch was misrepresented as a hero and used as a propaganda tool by the government, with claims that her story was exaggerated for media consumption.
  • Others express admiration for Lynch's honesty in speaking out against her portrayal, suggesting that she should be considered a hero for standing up against the manipulation of her narrative.
  • Some participants question the validity of her hero status, arguing that many soldiers have faced similar or worse circumstances without the same recognition or financial gain.
  • A few contributions highlight the physical injuries Lynch sustained, countering claims that she did not endure significant hardship during her captivity.
  • There is a discussion about the ethics of profiting from personal trauma, with some participants suggesting that Lynch's book deal undermines her credibility as a victim.
  • Several participants reflect on the broader implications of media narratives in wartime, comparing Lynch's case to other instances of government propaganda.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on whether Lynch should be considered a hero or a victim of circumstance. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the ethics of her narrative and the implications of her story.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about heroism, trauma, and media representation, with some noting the lack of acknowledgment for other POWs who may not have received similar attention or financial rewards.

  • #31
Originally posted by The_Professional

WOW! U.S. soldiers firing at Iraqi doctors, oops different thread. All kidding aside, I have great respect for the Special Forces guys, and familiar with the type of training and missions they have to go through but this story was greatly exaggerated. On this situation there was much less risk on the Special Forces getting killed.

hahaha, I agree whole heartedly with what you have just said.
The story was ridiculous, I have a hude disdain(sp?) for Ms. Lynch, and I have great respect for members of our military.
There was no doubt much less chance of them getting killed in real life than in the story, but let's be honest, to act as if they weren't brave or at risk is ridiculous in itself. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be in baghdad at that point in time, even with a gun and night vision.
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by phatmonky
There's an inferred personality trait in someone who sarcastically refers to a special forces member as "super brave" doing "ninja stuff", that allows me to say such a thing :smile:

You can say there was little risk, after the fact, but they were in baghdad, in hospital that was still guarded with armed soldiers. Everyone loves to play down these guys because of the rest of the story, but simply being in baghdad at this point was a dangerous thing.
Why don't you try not psychoanalyzing people, ok?
 
  • #33
Originally posted by Monique
Ok, I don't really get how the government can have a voice, who is the government in this case that made these claims?
Since no one is able to respond, I conclude it was infact the media who took the story and ran away with it.
 
  • #34
Originally posted by Monique
Since no one is able to respond, I conclude it was infact the media who took the story and ran away with it.
Specifically, it was the media runniong with DOD spin, without actually checking any of the facts.
 
  • #35
Originally posted by Zero
Why don't you try not psychoanalyzing people, ok?

I can only deal with what is posted master zero [zz)]
 
  • #36
Originally posted by phatmonky
I can only deal with what is posted master zero [zz)]
Try dealing with the points of the thread, not your opinion of the people, ok?

And check your PM inbox.
 
  • #37
Originally posted by Zero
Specifically, it was the media runniong with DOD spin, without actually checking any of the facts.

I thought the original report was through an embedded reporter and then through centcom. Wasn't the filming done by an embed and then edited by either centcom or the pentagon?
 
  • #38
Originally posted by kat
I thought the original report was through an embedded reporter and then through centcom. Wasn't the filming done by an embed and then edited by either centcom or the pentagon?
Well, embedded reporters are the first line of the Pentagon spin machine, aren't they?
 
  • #39
Originally posted by Zero
Well, embedded reporters are the first line of the Pentagon spin machine, aren't they?

lol, considering it's the many of the same media outlets that have embeds that were later pointing fingers...
 
  • #40
Originally posted by kat
lol, considering it's the many of the same media outlets that have embeds that were later pointing fingers...
Yeah, well, it friggin took them long enough, didn't it?
 
  • #41
Originally posted by Zero
Yeah, well, it friggin took them long enough, didn't it?
I think this comment officially makes you a sucker:wink: :wink:
 
  • #42
Originally posted by kat
I think this comment officially makes you a sucker:wink: :wink:
I think your comment just made you a target...
 
  • #43
Originally posted by Zero
I think your comment just made you a target...

oops!
 
  • #44
Originally posted by kat
oops!
It is your own fault...I'm looking at the Nuclear Posture Review, and I think I can adapt it to you pretty easliy...

OK, you get one reply, and then let's get back on topic, ok?
 
  • #45
Origionally posted by Phat man scoop
you were there? you know this? Wow! WRite a book about it!

I am only posting to what has been said, and the proof of what actually happened out there.

To be in the Military you have to be brave, nobody is questioning that, it is only the mission that is being questioned.
 
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  • #46
Originally posted by Andy

To be in the Military you have to be brave, nobody is questioning that, it is only the mission that is being questioned.

Exactly
 
  • #47
Damn you Zero! I was only trying to have some fun!

and yes i know the rules. :frown:
 

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