The largest n such that K_n can be expressed as the union of

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The discussion revolves around the largest integer n such that the complete graph K_n can be expressed as the union of k bipartite graphs. Participants explore the theorem stating that this is possible if and only if n ≤ 2^k, seeking intuition and understanding of the underlying concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire for intuition behind the theorem that K_n can be expressed as a union of bipartite graphs, specifically questioning why it is 2^k.
  • There are claims that something may be missing in the question, suggesting a lack of clarity or completeness in the problem statement.
  • One participant proposes that the largest n such that K_n can be expressed as the union of bipartite graphs is indeed 2^k, where k is the number of bipartite graphs.
  • Another participant suggests practical approaches such as plugging in values, drawing examples, and seeking counterexamples to develop intuition.
  • A participant discusses calculations and reasoning related to the 2^k colors associated with bipartite graphs, noting that each vertex can appear in multiple bipartite graphs, leading to a conclusion about the number of vertices.
  • One participant articulates a detailed explanation of how a graph can be represented as a union of k bipartite graphs if and only if it is 2^k-colorable, describing the process of product coloring and its implications.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the completeness of the question or the intuition behind the theorem. Multiple viewpoints and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing exploration and debate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the calculations and understanding of the equality case in the theorem. There are references to specific mathematical representations and assumptions that may not be fully resolved.

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there's a proof provided, but i want to know the intuition as to why it is 2^k.
 
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I think there is something missing in the question.
 
mfb said:
I think there is something missing in the question.
The largest n such that K_n can be expressed as the union of bipartite graph is 2^k where k is the number of bipartite graphs
 
Plug in some values,
Draw some examples,
Although it can't be done,
Try to get some counter examples..
And ah ha!
In a moment or two,
You'll get the intuition!
 
there's a proof provided, but i want to know the intuition as to why it is 2^k.

##K_n## is a complete graph and the theorem claims that this can be expressed as a union of ##k## bipartite graphs if and only if ##n\leq 2^k##.

So, in order to get a more intuitive view, I'd advise to solve for ##k## and see the minimum number of bipartite graphs sufficient to cover ##K_n##.
You can take some values for ##k## and see where it goes, doing some required representations along the way. The gist of the theorem is that if the inequality gets violated there can't be a coverage of ##K_n## with ##k## bipartite graphs.
 
QuantumQuest said:
##K_n## is a complete graph and the theorem claims that this can be expressed as a union of ##k## bipartite graphs if and only if ##n\leq 2^k##.

So, in order to get a more intuitive view, I'd advise to solve for ##k## and see the minimum number of bipartite graphs sufficient to cover ##K_n##.
You can take some values for ##k## and see where it goes, doing some required representations along the way. The gist of the theorem is that if the inequality gets violated there can't be a coverage of ##K_n## with ##k## bipartite graphs.
i did some calculations but it still just won't sit well with me. i did some research and found that there's 2^k colors since each bipartite graph have 2 colors and there are k such bipartite graphs. after some thinking, it became obvious that the number of vertices should be less than 2^k because each vertex can appear in more than one bipartite graph thus it can have more than 1 color. lastly, for the equality case, there are calculations that did satisfy that ,but i seem to lack the understanding as to why.
 
It seems like you've hit the nail on the head: a graph can be represented as a union of k bipartite graphs if and only if it is 2^k-colorable.

For one direction, say a graph is a union of k bipartite graphs. For each bipartite graph we can 2-color it. Then for the original graph, for each vertex we note what color it is in each of the bipartite graphs, and the final color is the ordered k-tuple of binary colors, so that is a 2^k-coloring. Going the other direction, if a graph is 2^k colorable, we can arbitrarily assign each of the 2^k colors to an ordered k-tuple of binary colors. Then we define the ith bipartite graph by saying vertices u and v are connected if and only if they are connected in the original graph and the ith members of their k-tuples are different. So the graph is a union of k bipartite graphs.

I would say the intuition is basically the notion of product coloring; if I can color G with g colors and H with h colors, I can color the union with gh colors by looking at the product coloring. Repeating the process, if G_1, G_2, ..., G_k can be colored with g_1, g_2, ..., g_k colors, then the union of the G_i's can be colored with g_1 g_2 ... g_k colors by taking the product coloring.
 

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