I The logical impossibility of proving that indeterminism is true?

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The discussion centers on the debate over whether the universe is deterministic or indeterministic, with the assertion that proving indeterminism is logically impossible. It posits that no experimental results can conclusively demonstrate indeterminism, suggesting that while the universe may be indeterministic, this cannot be proven. The conversation is framed as philosophical rather than scientific, highlighting the limitations of physics in proving such concepts. Participants express frustration over the lack of resolution in these discussions, emphasizing that they are better suited for philosophical forums. Ultimately, the topic raises significant questions about the nature of reality and the boundaries of scientific inquiry.
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One interesting question is whether our universe, our reality, is deterministic, or indeterministic.

And there's the idea that being able to prove that our universe, the physics, is indeterministic, is logically impossible. So, it includes whatever experimental ideas and results that one can possibly conceive and imagine, and the end result would still be that it is logically impossible to prove.

So the universe could be truly indeterministic, but we'll never able to prove it. And better not mistake this for poetic metaphysical imaginings, as this is hard logic.

So what do you think about this idea on whether its correct or not
 
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It is impossible to prove something in physics. Descriptive sciences can only falsify.

This question is philosophical, meta-physics at best, which we do not discuss at PF. It never reaches a satisfactory end for all participants, and most of all, does not allow a criterion on when a discussion has actually ended.

I'm sorry, and as much as I would personally like to discuss such topics, we leave it to websites for philosophy.
 
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