The moment of inertia of a solid sphere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of a system consisting of a solid sphere and a thin rod, focusing on the axis of rotation that is perpendicular to the rod's end. Participants are exploring the application of the parallel axis theorem and the moment of inertia formulas for both the sphere and the rod.

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  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia for the solid sphere and the rod, questioning the application of the parallel axis theorem. There is confusion regarding the calculation of the total moment of inertia and the interpretation of the provided answers in the lecture slides.

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Some participants express clarity on the application of the parallel axis theorem after receiving feedback, while others continue to explore the relationship between the components' moments of inertia and the axis of rotation. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants note discrepancies in the lecture materials, which present conflicting answers for the problem, leading to confusion about the correct approach to calculating the moment of inertia.

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Homework Statement



A solid ball of mass M and radius is connected to a thin rod of mass m and length L as shown. What is the moment of inertia of this system about an axis perpendicular to the other end of the rod?

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Homework Equations



Itotal = MD2 + Icm, where Icm = moment of inertia of the center of mass

The moment of inertia of a solid sphere is given by: 2/5 * mr2
The moment of inertia of a rod being rotated as shown is: 1/3 * mr2

The Attempt at a Solution



The center of mass of the sphere is a distance L away from the axis of rotation and has a moment of inertia of 2/5 * MR2. What I have a problem with is the rod. I know the rod's moment of inertia is given by 1/3 * mr2 (for this situation), and the distance from the center of mass of the rod to the axis of rotation is L/2.

Here is my question: our lecture slides were made goofy and it gives both answer (A) and answer (C) as the correct answer. I think answer (A) is the correct answer because we are calculating Itot by adding the moment of inertia for the solid sphere and rod. With that said, I am still confused if answer (A) is the correct answer because the parallel axis theorem is given by Itotal = MD2 + Icm. Why is the MD2 term just ML2 (mass of sphere a distance L from the axis of rotation), and not the sphere PLUS the rod? I may have worded my questions a little weird, let me know if I am being confusing. Thanks (:
 
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The Attempt at a Solution



The center of mass of the sphere is a distance L away from the axis of rotation and has a moment of inertia of 2/5 * MR2. What I have a problem with is the rod. I know the rod's moment of inertia is given by 1/3 * mr2 (for this situation), and the distance from the center of mass of the rod to the axis of rotation is L/2.

Here is my question: our lecture slides were made goofy and it gives both answer (A) and answer (C) as the correct answer. I think answer (A) is the correct answer because we are calculating Itot by adding the moment of inertia for the solid sphere and rod. With that said, I am still confused if answer (A) is the correct answer because the parallel axis theorem is given by Itotal = MD2 + Icm. Why is the MD2 term just ML2 (mass of sphere a distance L from the axis of rotation), and not the sphere PLUS the rod? I may have worded my questions a little weird, let me know if I am being confusing. Thanks (:

Yes A is correct, not C.

For the rod about its own center, I = (1/12)ML2

about its end (like where the axis is in the question) is I = (1/3)ML2

Sphere about the axis in the question = (2/5)ML2+ML2

(the rotating axis for the sphere must be moved to where it is in the diagram. The rotating axis for the rod is already the axis in the question)
 
Okay I get it, thanks for clearing that up for me! I apply the parallel axis theorem to the sphere, and the moment of inertia for a rod with the axis of rotation at the end is (1/3)ML^2
 
bluejazz said:
Okay I get it, thanks for clearing that up for me! I apply the parallel axis theorem to the sphere, and the moment of inertia for a rod with the axis of rotation at the end is (1/3)ML^2

Yep. In order to get the total inertia, all components must be 'brought to rotate about the same axis' if you get what I mean.
 
Yep, makes sense. Thank you for your time!
 

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