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Anyone know any sites that I can learn to read piano notes and play it from scratch?
Monique said:This site might be a good resource to you: download the scorch http://www.mfiles.co.uk/Scores/Fur-Elise.htm. It allows you to look at the notes and follow the music at the same time, it is good for getting the feeling of a song (sheet music can be too abstract).
The first part of Fur Elise is easy to learn, there are many other pieces availabe too.
Artman said:I'm a pretty impatient person when it comes to learning things. I taught myself to play piano so that I could write music. I agree that if you want to do it right, get lessons, but if all you want to do is play the piano, there are short cuts.
Learn some basic chord forms (this is really very simple with a little music knowledge you can learn the major, minor, diminished, augmented, 7th's and major 7ths just by memorizing a few interval spacings and moving them up and down the keyboard). Add to this a few of the treble cleff notes and you can play piano from any fake book in a manner of a few weeks.
no?Bladibla said:Take nocturne Op 9 no 2 for example of chopin. Do you know how much chords there are on there?
Monique said:no?
I learned how to play piano, but I never was learned a single chord.. so I have to thoroughly analyze a piece before I understand it.. others listen to a song and they can imitate it right away
so-crates said:http://www.musictheory.net/ has some good trainers and resources. Free sheet music for classical pieces can be had at http://www.mutopiaproject.org. For more recent pieces, you will probably have to buy scores or get them from someone else(or learn by ear, which is really hard for beginners) as they under copywrite protection.
I am a self-taught piano player. I can play a few pieces such as the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 8th sonata(1st and 3rd movements are a bit too difficult for me at this stage, though). Also have the Andante from Chopin's Nocturne in E-flat down pretty well (little rought on the ending though) I am like Monique in some respects. I can sight read, but not on the fly (that boggles my mind). I usually need to hear the music first to play it correctly. I have figured out a few pieces by ear alone - though not completely. ( Most notable, the first few chords the 2nd movement of one Mozart's best known piano concertos, his 21st )
Here's what my suggestins are.
1. As with most education, find someone who is good who is wiling to teach you. You will learn a lot faster this way, and avoid making mistakes and having to relearn to do a lot of things.
2. Practice
3. Failing finding a good teacher, learn to read music - not necssarily on the fly, but learn what all the notes and symbols mean
4. Practice more
5 Find pieces which you like to play, and aren't exceedingly difficult, and that you have a good recording of
6. Practice some more
You might have noticed that 3 of my 6 suggestins are 'practice'. Its not an overstatement. There was this famous pianist(Rubinstein, I think) who once said "If I don't practice for a day, my critics notice. If I don't practice for two days, my audience notices. If I don't practice for three days, I notice." You really have to build up confidence and awareness in your fingers/wrists, and your basic musicianship. I don't know of any shortcuts. There's a reason why every single performing classical pianist has been studying since (at maximum) the age of 8 or so. It's no picnic. But when you are actually able to play pieces with some proficiency, it can be very rewarding.
That kind of playing takes years of practice to become proficient. I used to play a Chopin piece because I love the mood it creates. Several people I know have taken years of piano lessons and I can play better than them. I looked at Nocturn, Opus 9. There aren't a lot of chords, they are just arpeggios (walking up and down the chord form) the problem wih that piece is that the key would be a bear to play (5 flats) :yuck:Bladibla said:Of course, yo ucan do with easy pieces. But if you REALLY want to play majestic, romantic, sensitive music, you'll need to play pieces of Rachamninoff And Chopin to name a few. And can you really say yo ucan sight read those in a mattter of weeks?
Take nocturne Op 9 no 2 for example of chopin. Do you know how much chords there are on there?
Artman said:That kind of playing takes years of practice to become proficient. I used to play a Chopin piece because I love the mood it creates. Several people I know have taken years of piano lessons and I can play better than them. I looked at Nocturn, Opus 9. There aren't a lot of chords, they are just arpeggios (walking up and down the chord form) the problem wih that piece is that the key would be a bear to play (5 flats) :yuck:
Artman said:That kind of playing takes years of practice to become proficient. I used to play a Chopin piece because I love the mood it creates. Several people I know have taken years of piano lessons and I can play better than them. I looked at Nocturn, Opus 9. There aren't a lot of chords, they are just arpeggios (walking up and down the chord form) the problem wih that piece is that the key would be a bear to play (5 flats) :yuck:
I'll get to it once I get some time on my hands (reports, reports, reports) first I want to perfect Comptine d'Un Autre Été.Bladibla said:@Monique: Nothing is really too difficult, if you put your mind to it. Let me quote chopin..
Bladibla said:Fur Elise..? That cursed score...
*burns, sissors, smashes Fur elise*
The tune is nice, but ITS BEEN PLAYED TOO DANG MUCH.
Oh good. So that is 32 or 36 I.Q. points I have increased by.Pre-AlgebraDude said:Once you get to the level where you can REALLY play, it is very rewarding. Every instrument you play also raises your I.Q. by 4 points! Learn as much as you can, but don't bite off more than you can chew at one time.
Everyone starts in C, don't get me wrong, but you have to move to other keys and not relate them to C. If I get a chord progression in G (say) I analysis it in G, I do not relate it to C.Pre-AlgebraDude said:Well, C is what I started out on, and helped me a lot, but everybody's different.
By ear? With the music? I would have said he was transposing but by ear is cool. You have to get used to the way things sound and progress and you start to find it easy. I am not saying I could get given a piece and I would just play it in any key but I could work it out.Pre-AlgebraDude said:My preacher actually sight read something, say it's in G or something, and play it in A or possibly B! He plays by ear, and dare I say, he has come close to mastering it.
The basic components of a piano include the keyboard, which consists of white and black keys that produce different notes, and the pedals, which are used to manipulate the sound produced by the keys. The piano also has a frame, soundboard, and strings that work together to create the sound.
Reading piano sheet music involves understanding the musical staff, which is made up of five lines and four spaces. Each line and space represents a different note on the piano. Notes are also represented by different symbols, such as circles and squares, which indicate the length and pitch of the note. It is important to learn the basics of music theory in order to read piano sheet music effectively.
The best way to practice piano notes is to start with the basics and gradually increase the difficulty level. Begin by learning the names and locations of the notes on the keyboard, then practice playing scales and simple melodies. It is also important to practice regularly and to break down difficult sections into smaller parts for better mastery.
The time it takes to learn piano notes varies depending on the individual's dedication and practice habits. Some people may be able to learn the basics in a few weeks, while others may take several months. Consistent practice and a strong foundation in music theory are key factors in learning piano notes efficiently.
Yes, it is possible to learn piano notes without a teacher. There are many resources available, such as online tutorials, books, and apps, that can help beginners learn piano notes on their own. However, having a teacher can provide valuable guidance and feedback that can help accelerate the learning process.