Theoretical, Experimental, Simulation, and end of story?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evolution of scientific tools, specifically focusing on the roles of theoretical frameworks, experimental methods, and simulations in scientific inquiry. Participants speculate on whether there could be a future frontier beyond current simulation techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant speculates on the potential for a next frontier in scientific tools beyond simulation, drawing an analogy to historical understandings of dimensions.
  • Another participant notes that simulations existed in the pre-computer age, albeit in a more labor-intensive form, suggesting that the fundamental nature of simulations remains unchanged.
  • A third participant agrees with the previous point, emphasizing that computers have made simulations easier and more efficient but do not introduce fundamentally new concepts.
  • One participant asserts that simulation is merely a prediction of theory, reiterating the idea that nothing new is introduced by computer simulations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that simulations, whether done by hand or by computer, do not represent a fundamentally new approach to scientific inquiry. However, there is speculation about the future of scientific tools, indicating a lack of consensus on what might come next.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the evolution of scientific methodologies and the implications of technological advancements, but it does not resolve the question of future developments in scientific tools.

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Theoretical, Experimental, Simulation, and... end of story?

I know that this question cannot be answered with any absolute authority, but I'd still like to hear some speculation.

Can there be a next frontier in the tools of science? Previously, we had experiments and theory. Later, simulation was created with the advent of the computer.

In analogy, we thought land, sea, and space was all that exists (heavens notwithstanding). Now, the possibility of alternate dimensions exist.

I don't think it would of been impossible for someone in the pre-computer age to envision what a computer simulation does. In that light, what could possibly follow simulation? It really feels like the end of the road.
 
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Simulations in the pre-computer age were made with pen and paper. It is much more work, but everything you can simulate in the computer can be done by hand, too. Of course, if you have a supercomputer available you'll make the simulation "a bit" more complex ;).
 


I agree with mfb, nothing a computer does is new. A computer has made doing extremely tedious and complicated tasks very very easy and efficient, but the fundamental concept is the same as it always was - simulations are simply doing calculations and making predictions based on a particular theory. It always comes down to observation -> theory -> prediction -> observation, perhaps not necessarily in that order.
 


Simulation is nothing but prediction of theory. There's nothing new in it.
 

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