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The discussion revolves around a problem from a thermal/statistical physics context, specifically focusing on the maximum magnetization of a paramagnet. The original poster describes their approach to previous problems and expresses uncertainty regarding the methodology for problem I.3.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate temperature, energy, and magnetic field in their calculations and questions the conditions under which magnetization is maximized. They also express confusion about the implications of temperature approaching zero.

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Some participants suggest alternative formulations of the temperature function and explore the implications of taking limits as temperature approaches zero. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between magnetization and temperature, but no consensus has been reached.

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The original poster references specific equations and relationships relevant to the problem, indicating a need for clarity on the conditions affecting magnetization. There is also mention of the course instructor, which may provide context for the level of discussion.

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Problem Set:

http://www.physics.utoronto.ca/%7Epoppitz/hw2.pdf

I'm having a problem with I.3

I got I.1 (answer is given on sheet)
For I.2 I found T(N,U,B) the following way
T = \frac{\tau}{k_B}
\frac{1}{\tau} = (\frac{\partial \sigma}{\partial U})_{N,V}
\therefore T(N,U,B) = \frac{2mB}{k_B} [ln(\frac{N}{2} - \frac{U}{2mB}) - ln(\frac{N}{2} + \frac{U}{2mB})]^{-1}

The problem I was having with I.3 is that I don't know how to go about finding the maximum magnetization. I remember hearing in class that the magnetization is maximized when the temperature is 0 but... it wouldn't make sense if B=0 and m can't be 0 so there's no other way of making that equation equal to 0.

I know the following is true:
M = -\frac{U}{B} = 2ms

But I'm not quite sure what I can do with this...

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
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Can you not simply rewrite T(N,U,B) as U(T,N,B) ?

PS : Is this course being taught by Yong Baek Kim ?
 
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Ok I'll try to do that and let you know.

And my course is being taught by Erich Poppitz.
 
I guess the only thing to do is take a limit of M(B, T, N) as T goes to zero. That seems to work perfectly and agrees with common sense in the end.
 

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