Thermodynamic Adiabats: Solving U=aP^2V

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The problem involves determining the adiabats of a thermodynamic system characterized by the internal energy equation ##U=aP^2V##, where ##a## is a positive constant. The focus is on finding the relationship between pressure (P) and volume (V) in the P-V plane under adiabatic conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the first law of thermodynamics to derive relationships involving pressure and volume. There are attempts to integrate and manipulate logarithmic expressions, with some questioning the correctness of transitions between equations. Others suggest alternative formulations and clarify the implications of logarithmic identities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's mathematical steps and exploring different interpretations of the logarithmic relationships. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct handling of logarithmic equations, but no consensus has been reached on the final form of the solution.

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There are indications of potential errors in the mathematical manipulation of equations, and participants are working through these issues collaboratively. The discussion reflects a focus on ensuring the accuracy of the derivations while adhering to the constraints of the problem.

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The internal Energy of a system is ##U=aP^2V## with a positive constant a. Find the adiabats of this system in the P-V plane.
The solution is $$P=\frac 1 a\left( \sqrt{\frac {V_0} V}-1\right)$$

2. The attempt at a solution
the first law with the given internal energy:
$$a(2PVdP+P^2dV)=-PdV$$
Integration:
$$\frac {2adP} {1+aP}=- \frac{dV} V$$
$$2 ln(1+aP) = -lnV+const.$$
and
$$(1+aP)^2=\frac 1 V+const.$$
$$P=\frac 1 a\left( \sqrt{\frac 1 V+const}-1\right)$$
 
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Joe Cool said:
$$2 ln(1+aP) = -lnV+const.$$
and
$$(1+aP)^2=\frac 1 V+const.$$
You have a small but crucial error in going from the first equation above to the second.
 
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Thanks for your Tip. Should it be like that?
##ln((1+aP)^2)=ln\frac 1 V+lnV_0=ln\frac {V_0} V## with ##V_0=e^{const.}##
 
Joe Cool said:
Thanks for your Tip. Should it be like that?
##ln((1+aP)^2)=ln\frac 1 V+lnV_0=ln\frac {V_0} V## with ##V_0=e^{const.}##
Yes, that's a nice way to do it.

The important thing is that if you have something like ##\ln y = \ln x + const##, it does not follow that ##y = x + const##.

If you have ##\ln y = \ln x + k## where ##k## is a constant, then "taking exponentials of both sides" yields
##e^{\ln y} = e^{\ln x + k} = e^k e^{\ln x}##.

So, ##\ln y = \ln x + k## implies ##y = C x ## where ##C = e^k## is a new constant.
 
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