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The discussion centers on deriving the energy in an orbit, specifically the transition from the second equation to the third equation using integration by parts. The user struggles with the algebraic manipulation required to express C in terms of m1, m2, and E, as indicated in the final equation C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). The confusion arises from the relationship between the equations and the integration process, particularly how Equation 33 relates to the derivation. Clear steps and algebraic relationships are essential for understanding this topic.

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I'm trying to derive the energy in an orbit and don't quite understand it (which makes remembering it pretty difficult for exams!)

I've put parts of my notes relating to this below.

My first problem is with the integration (2nd equation to 3rd equation). I've tried using integration by parts, but cannot get this answer. I've tried searching on the internet for the answer, but can't find it.

My next problem is the final step, getting to C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). It says using eq 33, which is the equation after 'Integrating' (the third equation in the list). I don't understand how this is related at all?

Thanks in advance for any help, this has got me totally confused!

[PLAIN]http://img718.imageshack.us/i/energy1.png[PLAIN]http://img151.imageshack.us/i/energy2.png

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UniPhysics90 said:
(2nd equation to 3rd equation). I've tried using integration by parts, but cannot get this answer.
Please show your steps so we can see if you did anything wrong.
UniPhysics90 said:
My next problem is the final step, getting to C=E((m1+m2)/m1m2). It says using eq 33, which is the equation after 'Integrating' (the third equation in the list). I don't understand how this is related at all?
It is a matter of algebraic manipulation. The last two equations on the energy1.png page can be combined and to solve for C in terms of m1, m2, and E. Is there a relationship between [tex]$\mu$[/tex], m1, and m2?
 

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