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Thrust Vectoring - Jet Aircraft

  1. Dec 18, 2007 #1

    mgb_phys

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    To go off on a tangent - I am watching a discovery channel program about the F22 fighter. A pilot (who looks about 15) is describing how the aircraft's engine is unique because it can vector thrust for manouverability and can fly supersonic without afterburner.
    I suppose that's true now that Concorde and the original Harrier are now retired - but it is making me feel old!
     
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  3. Dec 18, 2007 #2

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    I know what you mean. I am someone who thinks he is perpetually 27 years old. When I see someone in a position like that and they are 26 or 27 it amazes me. It just occurred to me the other night watching a hockey game...I would be considered a retirement age player.

    The F-22's engines are pretty incredible. The Sukhoi guys have the market on thrust vectoring.
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2007 #5
    The U.S Military is a secret to us. I believe what you say earlier, but to launch off an incredible machine like F-22 (Raptor), they will need an incredible afterburner to reach beyond Mach.2, or just even barely break the sound barrier. However, F-22 is a pretty light-weight that packs a bunch, so maybe it can even surpass 1100ft/s without thounsand of thrusting engine. Hey, i know that the U.S Military is introducing "Aurora" in 2014.
     
  7. Dec 19, 2007 #6

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    I've heard that American planes would be able to do the cobra maneuver if their avionics didn't prohibit it. The first plane to do it, after all, was the Mig-29, which is basically a knock-off of the F-18. The main reason is that though its neat to watch at an airshow, it isn't terribly useful in combat.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2007 #7

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    I always thought it was a knock off of an F-15. It does have the great low speed abilities that the F-18 has though.
     
  9. Dec 19, 2007 #8

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    No, the mig-25 was its own thing. The F-15 is almost a knock-off of the mig-25, but is vastly superior. And you mean the mig29 has great low-speed handling, right (not the 25)? The extended/blended wing root is the key that on both planes.
     
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  10. Dec 19, 2007 #9

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    Wow. The thing does full backflip! Is that the Cobra Maneuver? I've read about that but I'd never seen it.
     
  11. Dec 20, 2007 #10

    FredGarvin

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    Where'd the Mig 25 come into this? I was referring to the Mig-29.
     
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