How Do Tidal Forces Affect Objects Near Black Holes?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

Tidal forces near black holes exhibit distinct behaviors both inside and outside the event horizon. Outside the horizon, objects experience vertical stretching and horizontal squeezing, a phenomenon known as "spaghettification." Inside the horizon, these tidal forces continue to act in all directions, leading to significant distortion of objects. The concept of lightcones becoming sharper as one approaches the singularity indicates that connections between close objects will eventually be lost. For a deeper understanding, refer to 'Exploring Black Holes' by Taylor and Wheeler and the provided online resources.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of black hole physics, specifically event horizons and singularities.
  • Familiarity with the concept of tidal forces in general relativity.
  • Knowledge of lightcone diagrams and their implications in spacetime.
  • Basic grasp of the spaghettification effect and its significance in astrophysics.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the concept of spaghettification in detail, referencing 'Exploring Black Holes' by Taylor and Wheeler.
  • Research the mathematical formulation of tidal forces in general relativity.
  • Examine lightcone behavior near black holes and its implications for object interactions.
  • Explore the BIG RIP metrics and their relevance to black hole physics.
USEFUL FOR

Astronomers, astrophysicists, and students of general relativity seeking to understand the effects of tidal forces near black holes.

Dmitry67
Messages
2,564
Reaction score
1
Please confirm, I am not sure.

Outside the horizon, object is torn apart in vertical direction but is squezzed in a horizontal.
Inside the horizon, object is still torn apart in a 'vertical' direction, and in in the horizontal direction too
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Dmitry67 said:
Outside the horizon, object is torn apart in vertical direction but is squezzed in a horizontal.
Inside the horizon, object is still torn apart in a 'vertical' direction, and in in the horizontal direction too

The object is stretched in the radial direction and squashed in the horizontal direction (sometimes reffered to as 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetiffication" ' or 'the toothpaste effect'). Measuring the rate of contraction in the horizontal is one way a free-falling observer might be able to measure r-values once inside a static black hole (see page B-8 in 'Exploring Black Holes' by Taylor and Wheeler).

Regarding tidal forces inside black holes-
http://io.uwinnipeg.ca/~vincent/4500.6-001/Cosmology/Tidal_Forces_%20In_%20A_%20Black_%20Hole.htm
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I believe your link is still about the outside region.
Singularity in the non-rotating black hole is spacelike for a free falling obser4ver, it is not the point.

I am an amateur, so I check the pictures:
http://www.phy.syr.edu/courses/modules/LIGHTCONE/pics/bh3.gif
http://nrumiano.free.fr/Images/lightcones_E.gif

Approaching the singularity, lightcones become sharper and sharper. So any close objects will sooner or later lose connection to each other. The lightcones which become narrower and narrower is exactly the BIG RIP metrics. So tidal forces are ripping all apart in ALL directions.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
The equation for tidal forces remains unchanged inside and outside the event horizon.

Click on the link below (which leads to a draft copy of the second edition of EBH available online), then on 'InsideBH090308v1.pdf' which will open a new window, go to page 7 and you'll see an explanation regarding how distances compact for free-falling objects in the horizontal direction within the event horizon and how this can be used to measure the r-coordinate-

http://exploringblackholes.com/

Better still, I recommend you buy the book as it should answer most of your questions.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 62 ·
3
Replies
62
Views
8K
  • · Replies 51 ·
2
Replies
51
Views
5K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 40 ·
2
Replies
40
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
875
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
5K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
3K